clarification on using one's name

AndyHolland · Post by **AndyHolland** » Wed 30 November 2005 12:29 pm

In US newspapers you have to give your name for an editorial - otherwise they will not print it. This is a tradition in US newspapers to discourage slander and malicious attacks.

Ebor is correct that there are many legitimate safety concerns on the net. Also, spammers may use information to cause electronic problems. However, these can be dealt with electronically.

In St. Paul's time, it is my understanding that men were covering themselves in public while proclaiming the Gospels. This was considered cowardly - and so the quoted passages in Corinthians are applicable. Women were not encouraged in the public forum to show themselves for the same reason they should probably refrain from doing so on the net.

Andy Holland
Somerset PA

Ebor · Post by **Ebor** » Wed 30 November 2005 1:19 pm

What is your source for men covering themselves in public please?

Thank you for bringing up spamming and people or programs that "harvest" information and addresses.

And this is not a newpaper or magazine. Why should it be under the same rules?

It also occurs to me that people who write editorials and sign their name get paid for them, usually. And here we do it for free.

Ebor

later thought added

AndyHolland · Post by **AndyHolland** » Thu 1 December 2005 7:27 pm

Dear Ebor,

For reference on head covering, please see above the quotations from St. Paul's letter to the Corinthians above 11:1-11:12.

I had learned in my Anglican Sunday school days that this was because men were covering themselves and proclaiming the Gospels in the forum, yet women were bare headed in Church.

While it clearly pertains to Church, the Spirit of the passage should extend to places where people proclaim the Gospel or prophesy. Providing Scriptural passages or prayers, or sayings of Church Fathers clearly falls in that category.

In the US, in all reputable newspapers I have heard of, when you send a letter to the editor, you must supply your name, otherwise it will not be printed.

The practice discourages offensive, personal attacks. Women seem to behave themselves in the forum anyway.

Andy Holland
Somerset PA

Ebor · Post by **Ebor** » Fri 2 December 2005 10:50 am

I am familiar with the Pauline passage referenced. It is it's application to the 'Net that I find less then convincing. Have you discussed this 'interpretation" with your priest?

While one must supply personal information to a newpaper to get a letter printed, I have seen "Name withheld on reqest".numerous times when the topic is a personal or touchy one. The editor(s) or persons in charge of the paper know who the writer is, but the name is not put out to the general public. Presumably this is to protect the writer's privacy and protect him/her from harassment by others. How similar this seems to 'Net posting and the use of 'handles' or nicknames.

The owners of a forum know who the members are, one assumes. They are the ones in charge and can affect discipline if needed with moderating and banning and the like. No individual member, I think, has the right to demand another's personal information, and imho, if they are one question is "Why do they want something that is not their business?"

Is this the only forum you visit? I think there are men who behave themselves as well. and women who don't out there.

Ebor

AndyHolland · Post by **AndyHolland** » Fri 2 December 2005 7:56 pm

11:2. Now I praise you, brethren, that in all things you are mindful of me and keep my ordinances as I have delivered them to you.
11:3. But I would have you know that the head of every man is Christ: and the head of the woman is the man: and the head of Christ is God.
11:4. Every man praying or prophesying with his head covered disgraceth his head.
11:5. But every woman praying or prophesying with her head not covered disgraceth her head: for it is all one as if she were shaven.

So why shouldn't we follow this commandment at all times and all places where we are discussing religion, providing Scriptural passages, etc....?

Andy Holland
Somerset PA

Ebor · Post by **Ebor** » Tue 6 December 2005 11:49 am

How is discussing religion on-line to be equated with "praying and prophesying"?

How is a piece of cloth over the hair to be equated with fora nicknames.?

Why should men be subject to harassment or adult women not be held responsible for their postings?

How is the claim that knowing a poster's real name and information makes them more responsible for what they post and prevent personal attacks? This seems like an 'ad hominem' of 'someone is untrustworthy merely because they do not tell me who they are." What has been a source of personal attack on this forum recently but from one who's name and other information was made public?

The moderators are the ones who deal with fora discipline. They know who the members are, like the editors of a newspaper, to use the example you brought up. Also, there are anonymous editorials in papers, fyi.

Ebor

AndyHolland · Post by **AndyHolland** » Tue 6 December 2005 3:10 pm

Stay anonymous, that is your business. Fear of men is as real as fear of God - and both are healthy.

The moderators are the ones who deal with fora discipline. They know who the members are, like the editors of a newspaper, to use the example you brought up. Also, there are anonymous editorials in papers, fyi.

Well, my respect is towards our moderators who do not hide behind psuedonymns, and the newspapers that do not allow anonymous editorials that can promote slander.

As to Scriptural passages, I have prayed on here in the prayer section, and offered prayers, and provided Scriptural passages which are prophetic for all Scripture is Holy - so that obligates me as a Christian man to act as such in full accord with Holy Scripture and provide my name - to be uncovered.

People who are anonymous are "undercover" after all.

Andy Holland - pious twaddler
Holland-Daze Farm
Somerset PA