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pjhatala
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Post by pjhatala »

Ok... so now you've accused 1.) Archbishop Mark of being a KGB agent. 2.)Archbishop Kyrill of being a homosexual 3.)Recently reposed Fr. Averky Moreno of being a homosexual. And, if I'm reading your insinuations correctly 4.)The two of them of having a "relationship".

You're a deranged, malice filled person...and I'm through responding to any of your posts.

Nathaniel Kapner

Post by Nathaniel Kapner »

I will only say this dear "pjhatala." Do you have a real name, city,
and church?

I am not interested in gossip or digging up dirt. Over and over
the prophets were called, "deranged." I could cite you over a
dozen OT passages and one from the NT as well.

But I will let you search the scriptures. What my aim is - is to
demonstrate to all my fellow Cafe' members that these +ROCOR
bishops who became suddenly PRO MP (abp kyrill's "walk in the
park" with abp mark) have a different "agenda" than an
"ideological" one.

What happened during abp kyrill's "walk in the park" with abp
mark, that made him jump from a very convincing, articulate
anti MP publicist, to a muddled, incoherent, unconvincing
PRO MP advocate? Perhaps a "letter" or a "photograph"
or a check for $12,000 dollars worth of "sushi" in the mail?

And as I promised, KGB mark of berlin is next.

Subdeacon Nathanael Kapner
I.m going to stop mark's vote
aka Milton L Kapner D.O.B. 1950/Pgh PA
Leadville CO
"fools for christ" hooray!

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Post by Subdeacon Jerjis »

Many of us have been made aware of ROCOR's Abp Mark's
KGB connections. And we are all alarmed and concerned.

I would like to encourage all to read Vladimir Moss'
"The Fall Of Communism"
at www.romaitas.ru/eng/index/htm to learn the
history of ROCOR Abp Mark of Berlin's KGB beginnings.

Sbn Jerjis/Dr Alajaji

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Post by Subdeacon Jerjis »

My apologies. The web site for Vladimir Moss' Expose on
Abp Mark , "The Fall Of Communism" is at
www.romanitas.ru/eng/index/htm

Sbn/Dr Alajaji

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Post by CGW »

Brother Nathaniel wrote:

Brother Nathaniel wrote:
"In other words, God isn't through revealing all about Kyrill."

CGW wrote:
"Isn't that a wee bit blasphemous?"

Dear CG- How so?

God isn't "revealing" anything-- you are.

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Re: a very telling hole in his right ear

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Brother Nathaniel wrote:

I would make a very good detective for sure. Only because I rely
on St John 15:15 which I have been praying for years in my career
as a monastic beginning in 1996.

Good detectives use evidence and solid fact and logic and reasoning and others skills, not some delusion claiming to be a friend of God so He tells them what they don't know.

I do an all night vigil. Just ask any one at HTM or DS -
they will all tell you - "Yes - brother nathanael
(at HTM, Zacharias)did an "all night vigil."

Why does this sound like bragging? Religious "machismo"? Why is this 'impressive"?

That is the only way for a monk to get "in tight" with the saints,
yes I.m in tight with none other than "the holy new of russia"
you better believe it.

The only way? What about charity, compassion, humility or other virtues that are (supposed to be) the mark of a Christian? What of works of mercy and kindness? SInce the "holy new of Russia" are not posting here to support your assertion, why should we believe it?

Now - as for "body parts" - it's not my fault that Abp Kyirll of
San Francisco fame wears his condemnation in his right ear! -
a very telling hole (oh my that is the sanfrancisco way is it not?
Any way you swing it, so to speak, that was the
ROCOR abp Kyryill''s "incrowd" and still is!

More sly, sneaky suggestive innuendo. Why do you not plainly and bravely state what you think this all means? Is this the way that a man who claims Jesus for his Master is supposed to behave? If even an Anglican knows that back-biting and talebearing and rumourmongering is wrong, why not one who claims to be EO?

I do not believe you. Why should you be counted as reliable? What proofs have you offered to support slanderous rumours against people who are not on this forum. Why should you let yourself be used to spread defamation by unnamed "ROCOR sources"? Why do they hide behind you (if they exist at all?)

You have fixated on hatred of ROCOR hierarchs and think that you have power over them.

Your words are poison.

Ebor

Nathaniel Kapner

Please e mail me at bronathaniel @yahoo.com &

Post by Nathaniel Kapner »

My dear brother in Christ Jesus Ebor,

I feel you across the "wired."

Please e mail me at bronathaniel@yahoo.com & I will give
you my private phone #. If you call I will call you right back
and pay for the long distance call.

I invite everyone else that I have been dialoguing with on this
LIst to do the same" CGW, Southern O, Ekaterina, pjhatali
I welcome you to contact me and we will talk as fellow
Christians who love and want to serve the Lord.

Sbn Nathanael

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