THE "MP" - THE WHORE UPON MANY WATERS

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Nathaniel Kapner

THE "MP" - THE WHORE UPON MANY WATERS

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Subject: THE "MP" - THE WHORE UPON MANY WATERS

"Come I will show thee the Great Whore that sitteth upon many waters with whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication."

IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND OF THE SON AND OF THE HOLY SPIRIT. AMEN.

Today my beloved Orthodox Christians, we who are the heirs of the much suffering legacy of the Holy New Martyrs of Russia, are faced with one of the greatest evils that has ever assaulted Christ's Holy Orthodox Church in the history of mankind.

What is this? Namely the impending ROCOR/MP UNION which is about to lure usinto the lap of the great whore of the Moscow Matriarchy that we might commit fornication with her this coming May of 2006.

Many from ROCOR "beginning in the MP's sanctuary" have already drunk the wine of her fornication, and I could name a ROCOR hierarch-few, but that is for another woeful time when I will lift up the skirts upon them by coupling their Public crimes with their Ecclesiastical crimes. ("Shame shall cover their faces," saith the Lord)

As we look upon the globe of our encircled earth, we can see the "waters" known as the great oceans of which our Master with Whom we all have to do (including you!) commanded, "Hitherto shalt thou come but no further, and hitherto shall thy proud waves be stayed."

Now. The emigre' Church known as the +Russian Orthodox Church Outside Of Russia,has parishes all over the world and in every land in which the proud waves of our planet's oceans have been "stayed."

Once the Great Whore that sits upon the many waters, namely the MP, overflows with the wine of her fornication into these emigre' parishes through a ROCOR-hierarch-voted MP/ROCOR UNION this coming May of 2006, these parishes will be under the "unstayed" sway of swarming locusts of KGB priests and bishops unto whom the traitors of ROCOR have given power --- whose stings are in their "tails."

The desire to make a name for themselves rather than the desire for God's name to be called upon them, was the sin known as the Tower of Babel, my dear Cyprian. The whore that sits upon the many waters, the MP, lusts for even more:To spread her tentacles throughout the world and "sting" with her "tail" an infusion of "state-craft" and "mystery " - "Give us bread and we shall worship!"

Who is on the Lord's side? Let him come unto me. Put every man his sword upon his side and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp and slay every man his brother that has joined himself to Baalpeor.

The time is coming, nay, it threatens even now upon every door where shore meets sand that those who rejoice be as those who will not.

Take up your purses and purchase a sword that shall pierce through the hearts all who call themselves "True Orthodox Christians," all ye who wish to vindicate the sufferings of the Holy New Martyrs of Russia.

Take up the sword of Symeon that the thoughts of many should be revealed,beginning with My Temple, saith the Lord Almighty. Yea! We begin with Christ's Temple that all who would surfeit themselves now saying, "My Lord delayeth his coming - I shall eat, drink, discuss, and be merry," may know that there is One Who stands at the door and knocks.

And what does He say while knocking, "Come unto me all ye that loaf and are lightly laden and take up My Cross and follow my Holy New Martyrs Of Russia into suffering and death. Are any of us exempt from the obligatory, "We must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of heaven?"

And this is the tribulation of taking up a sword against everyman his brother whether in parish or home who will not take a stand for those who beginning on July 16, 1927, have entered the kingdom of heaven though the worst tribulations ever known to man. It is with these that now even now yes now! that we all have to do.

Through the prayers of St Maxim Of Serpukov The First Catacomb Bishop Of Russia

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ROAC Subdeacon Nathaniel Kapner
The Eleventh Hour
October 5/November 23/2005
St Yakov The First Bishop of Every Bishop That is Worthy To Be Called A Bishop
(NOT YOU!)

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Wow you either wrote this a long time ago and it showed up or you wrote it in the future and it accidently showed up in the present....
refering to the date on your signature....now Nathaniel is that anyway to refer to any CHURCH..........................

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Nathaniel, you are clearly bonkers! You are also not a gentleman or have any manners at all.

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Re: THE "MP" - THE WHORE UPON MANY WATERS

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Brother Nathaniel wrote:

Subject: THE "MP" - THE WHORE UPON MANY WATERS

"Come I will show thee the Great Whore that sitteth upon many waters with whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication."

IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND OF THE SON AND OF THE HOLY SPIRIT. AMEN.

Today my beloved Orthodox Christians, we who are the heirs of the much suffering legacy of the Holy New Martyrs of Russia, are faced with one of the greatest evils that has ever assaulted Christ's Holy Orthodox Church in the history of mankind.

What is this? Namely the impending ROCOR/MP UNION which is about to lure usinto the lap of the great whore of the Moscow Matriarchy that we might commit fornication with her this coming May of 2006.

Many from ROCOR "beginning in the MP's sanctuary" have already drunk the wine of her fornication, and I could name a ROCOR hierarch-few, but that is for another woeful time when I will lift up the skirts upon them by coupling their Public crimes with their Ecclesiastical crimes. ("Shame shall cover their faces," saith the Lord)

As we look upon the globe of our encircled earth, we can see the "waters" known as the great oceans of which our Master with Whom we all have to do (including you!) commanded, "Hitherto shalt thou come but no further, and hitherto shall thy proud waves be stayed."

Now. The emigre' Church known as the +Russian Orthodox Church Outside Of Russia,has parishes all over the world and in every land in which the proud waves of our planet's oceans have been "stayed."

Once the Great Whore that sits upon the many waters, namely the MP, overflows with the wine of her fornication into these emigre' parishes through a ROCOR-hierarch-voted MP/ROCOR UNION this coming May of 2006, these parishes will be under the "unstayed" sway of swarming locusts of KGB priests and bishops unto whom the traitors of ROCOR have given power --- whose stings are in their "tails."

The desire to make a name for themselves rather than the desire for God's name to be called upon them, was the sin known as the Tower of Babel, my dear Cyprian. The whore that sits upon the many waters, the MP, lusts for even more:To spread her tentacles throughout the world and "sting" with her "tail" an infusion of "state-craft" and "mystery " - "Give us bread and we shall worship!"

Who is on the Lord's side? Let him come unto me. Put every man his sword upon his side and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp and slay every man his brother that has joined himself to Baalpeor.

The time is coming, nay, it threatens even now upon every door where shore meets sand that those who rejoice be as those who will not.

Take up your purses and purchase a sword that shall pierce through the hearts all who call themselves "True Orthodox Christians," all ye who wish to vindicate the sufferings of the Holy New Martyrs of Russia.

Take up the sword of Symeon that the thoughts of many should be revealed,beginning with My Temple, saith the Lord Almighty. Yea! We begin with Christ's Temple that all who would surfeit themselves now saying, "My Lord delayeth his coming - I shall eat, drink, discuss, and be merry," may know that there is One Who stands at the door and knocks.

And what does He say while knocking, "Come unto me all ye that loaf and are lightly laden and take up My Cross and follow my Holy New Martyrs Of Russia into suffering and death. Are any of us exempt from the obligatory, "We must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of heaven?"

And this is the tribulation of taking up a sword against everyman his brother whether in parish or home who will not take a stand for those who beginning on July 16, 1927, have entered the kingdom of heaven though the worst tribulations ever known to man. It is with these that now even now yes now! that we all have to do.

Through the prayers of St Maxim Of Serpukov The First Catacomb Bishop Of Russia

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ROAC Subdeacon Nathaniel Kapner
The Eleventh Hour
October 5/November 23/2005
St Yakov The First Bishop of Every Bishop That is Worthy To Be Called A Bishop
(NOT YOU!)

Considering the history of your jurisdictional affiliations, your current position, and the strangeness that lies therein, why not keep quiet for a while and mind your own business. You don't know the history of the Russian Church(either part), you were never part of ROCOR, and your "homilies" sound like the ravings of a someone stricken with severe illusions of grandeur. The MP is the "Great Whore"? Are you out of your mind? Why not read St. John of San Francisco and see what he says about the MP. Why not read ANY official ROCOR documents and see if you can find in them absurd language like that. You're living in a fantasy world. Maybe switch to D&D for a while.

Nathaniel Kapner

THE JEWISH PRESS & THE MP TAKEOVER OF ROCOR PROPERITIES

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Subject: THE JEWISH PRESS & THE MP TAKEOVER OF ROCOR PROPERITIES

THE ZIONIST ORGANIZATION OF AMERICA PRESS - AISH HA TORAH PRESS -
RE: ROCOR, my Jewish Librarian contact referred me to among
many Jewish Press sources.

Even the Jewish Press knows something ROCOR DOESN'T KNOW!

FROM THE ZIONIST ORGANIZATION OF AMERICA INTERNET PRESS:

"The PA police burst into a Jericho monastery and tried to seize
control of the building. Four nuns and monks were expelled. Two
American nuns -- including Sister Maria, whose brother is former top
Clinton aide George Stephanopoulos-- managed to remain in the
monastery, and are refusing to leave.(From Associated Press, Jan.18,
2000)

ZOA SPECIAL REPORT "PA police expel nuns and monks: On July 5, 1997,
Arafat's police broke down the doors of the Abraham's Oak Russian
Monastery in Hebron, expelled all the nuns and monks, and took over
the site."

UNITED JERUSALEM.COM PRESS:

"Two American nuns, including the sister of President Bill Clinton's
former aide George Stephanopolous, are caught in the eye of a
Russian church storm in the Holy Land. Yasser Arafat's Palestinian
police have evicted five so-called White Russian monks from their
19th-century monastery of Jericho, handing the property over to
the Moscow Patriarchate of the Russian Orthodox Church
.... The
property wrangle in the Holy Land is part of a 70-year battle for
control of the Russian Orthodox Church involving the Red and White
entities.

FROM JEWISH WORLD INTERNET PRESS:

..."Two weeks ago, Moscow Patriarch Alexei II came on a Christmas
pilgrimage to Bethlehem and presented Arafat with documents laying
claim to the monastery property. Alexei II is the leader of
the Red Church.
* To the dismay of White Church officials, the
Palestinians accepted the claim. This is the second such handover
by the Palestinian Authority, and White Church officials fear its
other properties could follow.

Palestinian officials argue that since the Soviet Union has
collapsed, the two Russian churches should no longer be enemies.

"... Stephanopolous says she's determined to stand firm. "My brother
is well aware of the situation, and we trust that he will do what he
knows he can do," she said."

FROM JEWISH VIRTUAL LIBRARY INTERNET PRESS:

"In January 2000, members of the Preventive Security Organization
(PSO) seized a Jericho church compound, which was under the auspices
of the American-based Russian Orthodox Church Outside Russia
(ROCOR). The PSO handed control of the church to members of the
Moscow Patriarchate (MP) of the Russian Orthodox Church.

"Although the church compound had been under the control of the
ROCOR for decades, members of the MP disputed the ROCOR's
property claim, maintaining that the MP is the true owner of this
compound."

AISH HA TORAH INTERNET PRESS/GAMLA INTERNET PRESS [Ben-David, Free-
Lance Reporter]:

JERICHO, West Bank, Feb. 11--A proposed compromise to break the
month-old deadlock over a contested monastery here involving two
American nuns of the Russian Orthodox Church outside Russia (ROCOR)
includes a sharing of the property for at least the short term with
the rival Moscow-based Russian Orthodox Church.

"Palestinians want to turn the land over to the politically more
powerful Moscow church, which claims it is the legal owner.

"ROCOR was created by anti-communist exiles following the 1917
Bolshevik revolution who split off from the Soviet-dominated Moscow
Orthodox Church patriarchate. The Moscow church today is closely
aligned with the current Russian government.

The Palestinian Authority says the Moscow church is the rightful
owner of the Jericho property as heir to the Tsarist-era Russian
Orthodox Church, which originally purchased the site some 150 years
ago.
The nuns have refused to leave the monastery, insisting that
ROCOR has legal title.

"In Moscow, meanwhile, Patriarch Alexy, head of the main Russian
Orthodox Church, said the United States was responsible for the
crisis Itar-Tass article. The patriarch maintained that "U.S.
authorities and American special services" wanted to keep the Moscow
church and the ROCOR from uniting.

ROCOR has been steadily losing its properties in Israel and
Palestinian-controlled areas to the more powerful Moscow church.

The Jericho incident marks the latest stage in the gradual but
controversial transfer of "white" Russian church sites in the Holy
Land to the "red" Moscow-based patriarchate. The transfers have been
slowly taking placeover the past 50 years.

NY PRESS REALEASE - CONGRESSWOMAN CAROLYN MALONEY OF JEWISH-
POPULATED EAST MANHATTEN DISTRICT NEW YORK:

"NEW YORK, NY -- Today, in front of the Isaiah Wall in Manhattan,
Congresswoman Carolyn B. Maloney (D-NY), Ms. Nikki Stephanopoulos
(mother of Sister Maria), and Archbishop Mark and Father Victor
Potapov of the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russian (ROCOR)
reported extremely positive news from their trip to visit two
American nuns under siege in a monastery in Jericho...

"Maloney continued..."We expect to learn that the "Red" Russian
Orthodox Church and the Palestinian Authority will grant free access
for members of both Churches to the property at the Jericho
Monastery.

"On January 15, 2000, at the behest of the Moscow-based ''Red''
Russian Orthodox Church, armed Palestinian police officers invaded
the grounds of the Russian Orthodox Church Outside Russia's (ROCOR)
Jericho Garden Monastery forcing monks, workmen, and nuns off the
property."

FOR PICTURES AND HISTORICAL BACKGROUND:
www.schou.de/palestin/jericho.html
www.schou.de/bacground.html

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Nathaniel Kapner

MP TREACHERY! Just Ask Mother Juliana

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Subject: MP TREACHERY! Just Ask Mother Juliana bronathaniel

"WHITE CHURCH LOSES MONASTERY TO RED CHURCH," writes Zionist
Reporter Jerrold Kessel, deputy bureau chief for CNN in the
network's Jerusalem Bureau. Here's what a Jewish Zionist Reporter
knows that the ROCOR PRO-MP Bishops refuse to know:

July 9. 1997

HEBRON, West Bank (CNN)- The Monastery of Abraham's Oak in Hebron,
a 130-year-old Russian church has become the centerpiece in a
struggle between two factions of the Russian Orthodox Church.

The monastery was recently taken from the control of the so-called
White Russian Church, [ROCOR] which traces its lineage back to the
Czars, to monks and nuns loyal to Moscow's so-called Red Patriarchy,
[The MP], which has been the official Russian church since the
Bolshevik revolution 80 years ago.

"We were told you have to leave because this man[His Holiness Alexy
II],has to come here," says Mother Superior Juliana. "This man was
from the red church."

Patriarch Alexy II attended a meeting recently with Palestinian
leader Yasser Arafat asking for help in recovering church properties
like the Monastery of Abraham's Oak. "As the responsible authority
in Hebron and all parts of the West Bank," Rijoub of the Palestine
Authority said, "we have the right to do our best to help them."

[THE FOLLOWING IS from an official report dated July 7, 1997 from
Archimandrite Bartholomew of the Hebron Monastery Mission]:

To the Synod of Bishops of the ROCOR,

"At approx. 10:30 A.M. July 5, police drove onto the territory of
our monastery in Hebron, and began to demand that we leave the
monastery leave within 24 hours.

The police were told that we would not abandon the property of our
Russian Orthodox Church Outside Russia.

Events began to take on a cruel character: They started to drag all
of us out into the street and they began to beat us.

The Abbess Juliana was dragged along the floor by policewomen. Her
head was hit a few times upon stone steps. She is now in a hospital.

Thus was accomplished "a gift-giving" to the Moscow Patriarchate by
the leadership of the Palestinian Autonomy."

ARCHIMANDRITE BARTHOLOMEW
Chief of the RUSSIAN ECCLESlASTICAL MISSION IN JERUSALEM

The Church Historian, Vladimir Moss wrote a telling comment with
regard to this this species of MP TREACHERY in his article, "The
Sergianist Takeover of Jerusalem:"

"If the idea that Archbishop Mark might be planning to hand
over the remaining properties of the Church Abroad to the MP seems
far-fetched, the following remark by his close assistant in this
affair, Protopriest Victor Potapov, should convince people
otherwise, "We declare outright," Potopov said in an interview with
Nezavisimaya Gazeta -July 24, 1997), "that we consider the Church
Abroad to be an inalienable part of Russian Orthodoxy and that we
would like to give over to Russia everything that we have available,
and in particular also here in the Holy Land."

What can I Subdeacon Nathaniel Kapner say to all of these things?
I fear that the ROCOR hierarchy will continue giving up their
kingdom unto the beast until it is fully signed sealed and delivered
by them on that fateful day in May of 2006. We all watch with fear
and trembling.

For the the New Confessors Mother Juliana and Archimandrite
Bartholomew,

Subdeacon Nathaniel Kapner
The Eleventh Hour

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Post by John Haluska »

Nathaniel Kapner, Milton, whatever name you are addressing yourself as today…

In the first sentence of the latest, whatever “they” are you are tossing out, as well as in other paragraphs(?), sentences you constantly use the word

“...we...”

Why is that?

You specifically reference, denigrate the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia with the word

“we”.

Why is that?

Are you, or are you not, a member of the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia?

Your incessant use of the word “we” designates you are a member of the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia…are you?

If you are, why do you use slander and other epithets to describe “your” Church?

If you are not a member of the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia, then what is the reason for the slander and malicious slime you spread in your “missives”?

Please tell us.

You have slandered and denigrated a Hierarch of the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia. Whether he is “good” or “bad” is NOT for “any” (you also) of us to judge…because, the last I heard…

God is judge...

...not you ...

...or any of us...

Do you realize that no matter who or what any Hierarch, is, he is still a successor to the Holy Apostles?

Are you a successor to the Holy Apostles?

Are you an “equal” to ANY Hierarch?

Slander is most definitely not the ”way” for anyone to take you even remotely seriously.

Your “closing” refers to ROAC.

Are you or are you not a member of the ROAC?

If, as is clearly stated in your “missives” you are, by the definition of the word “we” a member of the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia, why do you “close” with ROAC, the Russian Orthodox Autonomous Church?

To which Church do you belong?

Also, if I may ask, please do not refer to my Church, the RUSSIAN ORTHODOX CHURCH OUTSIDE OF RUSSIA, as the word you used in the title of your “work”.

That unfortunate word which you used has labeled countless people...to include, babies, children, as well as others to include the elderly, some of whom have been the recipients of untold grief and torture by others.

Are you their equal?

Then again, it is they who will pray for your soul’s salvation.

John Haluska

Ps:

It is only 7:46...oops 7:47 am by my computer’s clock

jth

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