New calendar Greek baptism

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So then as a young baby I was given a valid Baptism by my Roman Catholic Priest, I was sat in a font and then he poured the water over my head 3 times and also saying "Name of the Father and of the Son,and of the Holy spirit" and then I was picked up and raised above his head and turned to face the Altar and then i was given to my godparents who each had a white cloth and a white robe like clothing..
the candles were turned off in the water and the candles were placed at the alter for God knows how long.

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latins are heretics and their baptisms are not valid--definitely a need to get baptized on your part.
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And how did the Holy Fathers interpret canon 50 of Didache?

Read for example St Nikodemus the Hagiorite who refuses the sprinkling with water as an invalid form for baptism since three immersions and an orthodox faith on the one who bapptises are the two necessary condistions for the mystery. Only in those case when you cannot use three immersions...for example the baby are seriusly sick, or someone is to old for batism, can economia be used. Roman Catholics dont have this mystery at all since they lack the orthodox faith. Heretics have no mysteries.

Since economia could not be said to have been the case here, the priest should have used immersions. If an orthodox priest baptised me with sprinkling I would have to receive this mystery again in a valid form. This should also be the case if I knew the priest or bishop to be a heretic.

Exact science must presently fall upon its own keen sword...from Skepsis there is a path to "second religiousness," which is the sequel and not the preface of the Culture.

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This should also put a light to ecumenistic dialouges. The orthodox bishops and priests who talk to the "pope" talks to someone who is not christian...not baptised. In ecumenistic confesences...the orthodox are the only christians around, discussing with unbaptised people who believe they are christians and even bishops.

Exact science must presently fall upon its own keen sword...from Skepsis there is a path to "second religiousness," which is the sequel and not the preface of the Culture.

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If a priest cannot even perform the FIRST Holy Mystery properly, then how incompetent will he be with the other six?

Would anyone consider living in a house built, by an incompetent architect, who uses rotten wood for pillars and lays a crumbling foundation? Think about it. In the material sense, we use our logical discernment.

How much more is it important to use it when dealing with our souls?

Some may say that the Holy Spirit works despite the spiritual state of some clergy. I say that the Holy Spirit would not descend on such vileness against God, otherwise, He would descend on the catholic mysteries too.

At one point, we have to know where the line is drawn.

We're not perfect and clergy are not perfect, but at least a descent effort would be appreciated.

I read an article of prophesies of Elder Paisios of Mt. Athos, before his death(1994). He stated the following: "There was a time when the Holy Spirit enlightened us and showed us the way. A grand business! Today It finds no reason to descend to us."

This is a very serious matter. And that's why I'm taking this "baptism" so seriously.

Joanna

Create in me a clean heart, O God, and renew a right spirit within me. (Ps. 50)

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latins are heretics and their baptisms are not valid--definitely a need to get baptized on your part.
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What you meant is that the Roman catholic church are , not Latins..
For I know lots of Latins that are in one of the old Calendar True Orthodox jurisdictions..........

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