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Brother Nathaniel wrote:Why then should we not do all that we can to call upon Fr Panteleimon to bring us out of all our OC Jurisdictional distresses?"
Why should we call on a cult leader who is known, mostly, because of the multiple accusations of forced immoral acts on others under him? No, I think if we seek unity, we call on our own bishops that this is the desire of their flock.
Brother Nathaniel wrote:Bravo! Deacon Nikolai. And a good place for ou Hierarchs to start the process is right here on The Euphrosynos Cafe Discussion Forum.
(ROAC) Sub Deacon Nathaniel Kapner
You know, I've noticed you've called everyone-- including our Bishops-- to task, except for Fr Panteleimon. Frankly, even I have gotten to the point of giving up. I am sick of asking you to stop praising cult leaders and trashing other people. If you want to join Fr Panteleimon, fine. You want to keep saying you are ROAC, fine. My patience is just finished. I cannot keep reading this and thinking that you can act in a sane, rational manner.
Go where you will.
Joe Suaiden
http://www.roac.tk
You know, I have a great deal of respect for ROAC and recognize it as the persecuted Catacomb Curch of Russia. What saddens me is that so many if our old riff-raff keeps seeking refuge in her, and I am not speaking about Br. Nathaniel, as he is not emulating these others by slandering our Elder. One sign that HOCNA is the True Church is that everyone else hates her. These past couple years, major obstacles have been removed to establishing true relations of Orthodox Christian love between brethren by the removal of Gregory, Victor Melehov, and Spyridon Schnieder. Yet, there still seems to be those out there who like to parrot the same old propaganda that ROCOR was behind all along to get the Elder out of the way. Now that these Sergianists are showing their true colors, it only vindicates us AND Met. Valentine, whom they have also slandered. Stop serving the devil's purposes by slandering a man you've never actually witnessed commiting any evil!
Sean,
"Stop serving the devil's purposes by slandering a man you've never actually witnessed commiting any evil!"
Let's agree to do one step better - Let's stop slandering altogether and let the enemy do his own work. Let's pray for one another, pray for our enemies, and encourage one another.
Your fellow struggler in Christ,
Rd. Chrysostomos
Chrysostomos wrote:Sean,
"Stop serving the devil's purposes by slandering a man you've never actually witnessed commiting any evil!"
Let's agree to do one step better - Let's stop slandering altogether and let the enemy do his own work. Let's pray for one another, pray for our enemies, and encourage one another.
Your fellow struggler in Christ,
Rd. Chrysostomos
Here! Here! That's the most level-headed post I've read on this thread.