Sorry Nathaniel if my words offended you, With christ in our Midst those were not my intentions.if there is anything I can help you with send me a private message. its just we never know who is out here reading what we write...may God forgive me for offending you at a time when I shouldve been helping you........
Archbishop GREGORY of Denver and Colorado
Moderator: Mark Templet
POLICE RPT: Sbn Nathnaiel's Arrest
"EXPOSING ABP GREGORY - III"
Documents Attached To Sbn Nathaniel's "Request For An Ecclesiastical Court"
(This request was denied by Abp Gregory)
POLICE INCIDENT REPORT #05-2121
"On Saturday June 25, 2005, I was dispatched to 29020 C.R. in Buena Vista [Dormition Skete] in reference to a theft call. I arrived and Fr Peter Wheeler asked for my assistance in retrieving property back from "Brother Nathaniel" Kapner.
Peter said that Nathaniel had a monk uniform and keys to the Church in his possesion. I was present when Peter confronted Nathaniel and asked for the property to be returned. Nathniel refused to return the property and Peter advised that he wanted to press charges for the theft of Monastery property. I then handcuffed Nathaniel and placed him under arrest for theft."
VIDMAR, W.J.
6/25/05
8:30 to 8:45 AM
Report Time: 9:23:AM
Police RPT
I would suggest that you execise some Christian restraint and simply do not read my posts.
If you simply cannot resist the temptation to read my posts, and still wish to protest their contents, I then encourage you to protest to Father Nikolai Stanoscheck, Deacon, and owner of Euphrosynes Cafe' who contacted me and INVITED me to make these posts that you find objectionable. "By thy words thou shalt be justified and by thy words thou shalt be condemned." In other words, be careful.
Cordially,
Sub Deacon Nathaniel Kapner
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I think the issue is more about the scandalous flavor of the posts. I don't know about the other memebers, but I got a warning signal when reading through them..very quickly.
Frankly, I don't know who this Nathanel is and therefore wonder about his spiritual state. What if he's baring false witness?
Create in me a clean heart, O God, and renew a right spirit within me. (Ps. 50)
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Nathaniel,
Your response is totally uncalled for and quite frankly, completely lacking in humility. It's proof enough for me, to see what kind of character you have. What a rotten way to respond. Many of us don't like these post and when we have an opinion about certain posts, we express them; Deacon Nicholai knows that very well. Perhaps he didn't think through on his invitation.
"By thy words thou shalt be justified and by thy words thou shalt be condemned."
First apply this statement to yourself. Sounds like you're PREACHING fire and brimstone. Isn't that always the way, when someone who thinks he's suffering for Christ, goes quoting and lecturing people.
In other words, be careful.
This sounds like a threat.
And drop the cordial...you're being anything but that.
Create in me a clean heart, O God, and renew a right spirit within me. (Ps. 50)
POLICE RPT: Sbn Nathnaiel's Arrest
Dear Josia,
You ended your invective against me:
Bear one another's burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ. (Galatians 6:2
When Fr Nikolai Stanoscheck invited me to make these posts with respect to my plight with Dormition Skete, I agreed in the hopes that his members would fulfill St Paul's exhortation:" Bear one another's burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ. (Galatians 6:2)"
This whole affair with gregory has been an absolute nightmare for me, beginning with my 3 days in Jail and gregory's subsequent vilfication of me for the next 2 months when I did every thing I could to bring about an Eccelesiastical Court in obedience to our Savior's instruction to "tell it to the Church."
Now I have the oppurtunity to "tell it to the Church" at large. Would you and the rest of my critics, along with gregory, also deny me this my Gospel right?
Perhaps you and the others will one day find yourself in similar circumstances: "By your words....."
Cordially,
Sbn Nathaniel Kapner
PS I encourage you to bring your complaints to Fr Nikolai who invited me to make these posts if you believe that he should "think again."
Re: POLICE RPT: Sbn Nathnaiel's Arrest
Brother Nathaniel wrote:This whole affair with gregory has been an absolute nightmare for me, beginning with my 3 days in Jail and gregory's subsequent vilfication of me for the next 2 months..
Agreed. But it is time to WAKE UP and accept the fact that YOU ALSO are responsible for the situation. YOU put yourself under his control. YOU made the poor decision in the first place.
So, accept that fact and move on.
The whole tone of all your posts are that YOU ARE A VICTIM. That's nonsense. You were a FOLLOWER.
Brother Nathaniel wrote:Now I have the oppurtunity to "tell it to the Church" at large. Would you and the rest of my critics, along with gregory, also deny me this my Gospel right?
The problem is that you are NOT "telling it to the Church". Gregory was not in COMMUNION with ANY OTHODOX CHURCH. Everyone else knew he was a fraud, an egotist and a looney.
Brother Nathaniel wrote:Perhaps you and the others will one day find yourself in similar circumstances: "By your words....."
You should have written "PUT yourself in similar circumstances" YOU did this by making a poor choice - Gregory just reacted as expected.
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