What would you do if ROCOR and the MP united tomorrow?

[Joe Zollars]

"Yes my friend, and you TOO are not Orthodox." (emphasis mine)

too=as well

So you agree with me that OCA is not Orthodox? Just joking

I am not Orthodox yet, but will be ASAP. Are laity required to accept this position of the ROCOR heirarchy?

Joe Zollars

[尼古拉前执事]

There are some in ROCOR (as this poll may very well show) that believe that (A) those outside of our communion have grace, some that will think (B) they do not, some that think (C) some do and some do not, and others that (D) just do not know and do not make judgment. All are allowed opinions in ROCOR, as the grace of those not in communion with us is not dogma.

I, myself, am between C and D.

[Joe Zollars]

thanks for the clarification Nicholas. I myself am in the same place you are.

Joe Zollars

[Justin Kissel]

Nicholas,

Regarding C, I assume one of those who you imagine do not have grace are the Antiochians. Could you tell me when you think the left Orthodoxy and became void of grace?

[尼古拉前执事]

Actually I am not going to come out and say the Antiochians have no grace. I do not seeing myself being able to rightfully judge that at this point. What I meant by my position is that I think some outside our communion have grace, but I am not willing, at this point, to declare any of those not in communion with us to be graceless.

[Justin Kissel]

Does this mean that you are also agnostic as to whether I am Orthodox? (since I was "baptized" Roman Catholic and Christmated Antiochian?)

[尼古拉前执事]

Actually no, I am not agnostic as to whether you are Orthodox. :ohvey: You were received into our Church and thus are definitely Orthodox. I do think that all converts should be received by Baptism however.