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Politically Incorrect Martyrs.

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Russia's New Martyrs: Politically Incorrect?



Many converts have been inspired by Russia's New Martyrs. Sadly,
outside the Orthodox community they are virtually unknown. As First
Things' editor, Fr. Richard John Neuhaus perceptively suggests, the
reason for this may be something other than lack of information.

There is little disputing the fact that this, above all others, has
been the century of Christian martyrdom. Yet that reality receives
curiously little attention among contemporary Christians.
Presbyterian writer Herbert Schlossberg has recently discussed this
phenomenon in A Fragrance of Oppression: The Church and Its
Persecutors, and offers some suggestive ideas about this strange
neglect. Additional dynamics, one suspects, are in play. For
instance, in theologies of past decades the prophetic, the radical,
and the liberationist all came in for great attention. Priests and
nuns killed for their involvement in various social justice
struggles in Latin America have received a great deal of attention
But there seems to be an ideological test for the veneration of
martyrs.

Those killed under Hitler, notably Dietrich Bonhoeffer, are
celebrated. It is respectable, indeed required, to be anti-Nazi.
But for forty-plus years anticommunism was suspect, and of course
many more Christians were killed by the Communists for begin
Christian than by the Nazis. The undeniable fact is that during the
Cold War those in the West who raised the question of the
persecution of Christians behind the Iron Curtain were viewed as
reactionary. Unlike, say, the Jesuits of El Salvador who were
struggling for a revolutionary new order, the Christians massacred
by the Communists were resisting what presented itself as the
revolutionary new order. They failed the test of being progressive
martyrs. The twentieth-century martyrology, such as it is, is a
canon of the politically correct. There are martyrs, and then there
are "politically interesting" martyrs. There is a certain sniffing
condescension toward those who simply died for the faith, without
some further and redeeming political merit. The innumerable martyrs
buried under the snows of Siberia have gone largely unremarked, at
least among Christians in the West. And today not much notice is
paid the brutally persecuted Christians in the south of the Sudan,
or the Copts in Egypt. Millions of Christians are involved in just
these two instances, and they are under attack because they are
Christians. Scholars who attend to the statistics of world
Christianity tell us that some 300,000 Christians each year are
killed for being Christians. We are not quite sure how they arrive
at that figure, but there is no doubt that attention to martyrdom in
this century has been and continues to be highly selective.

From"Martyrs, Correct and Incorrect" in First Things, Nov. 1993.

Julianna

The Evil Patriarchates

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It is too sad that the Patriarchates of Moscow and Costantinople martyred so many genuine Orthodox Christians. Why would anyone want to be in communion with them?

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Eye for an eye

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It is too sad that the Patriarchates of Moscow and Costantinople martyred so many genuine Orthodox Christians. Why would anyone want to be in communion with them?

Gandhi once said that if everyone pursued, with exactitude, the maxim "an eye for an eye", then the whole world would be blind.

In so saying, he was only repeating something said long ago by the Saviour - pursuing an "eye for an eye" with zeal, can only be the sport of the sinless (which includes none of us), and even then, if we were free from sin, we'd be filled with mercy and eager to forgive...thus, it's a business we could never be involved in.

I agree, the Moscow Patriarchate (in the persons of those heirarchs who cooperated with the communist rulers in their evil, or remained silent - this being something that did not include all Bishops, obviously) made some awful comprimises. Perhaps more guilty (directly) were those Greek heirarchs, who went out of their way (often using the arm of the law to assist them) to persecute Old Calendarists (an enterprise that Constantinople still involves itself in, such as the case of what is going on at Mt.Athos.)

These things are awful. It is the motives behind these things, which make communion with them impossible, however...and not their "sinfulness" per se. Violations of canonical order, and theological/confessional issues are what explain the lawful separation of Orthodox Christians from these heirarchs.

I will be the first to say, otoh, that I'd love to be in communion with the Oecumenical Patriarch, and the MP. I desire this, and hope it occurs in my lifetime. When the conditions for this are in place, charity obliges that those "in resistance" be ready to forgive. One danger inherent to the "resistance" movement in it's various forms, is that it can create a form of neo-montanism; so named after the post-Diocletian schismatics, who held that those Christians (including heirarchs and clergy) who buckeled under the pressure of the Roman persecutions, were inadmissable into the fellowship of prayer. Frankly, I see this attitude in some corners of the "traditionalist" milieu.

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It is too sad that the Patriarchates of Moscow and Costantinople martyred so many genuine Orthodox Christians. Why would anyone want to be in communion with them?

If we weren't in our current age of over media saturation I wonder if all these "true" Orthodox churches would exist. I very much doubt the splintering that has occurred is the Patristic ideal. Rather than focusing on the worst actions of Constantinople look at some of her great saints of this century...Elder Joseph of the Holy Mountain, Elder Paisios of the Holy Mountain...the living saint Elder Ephraim. Come and see St. Anthony's monastery in AZ or go to the Holy Mountain to see what holiness and grace prevails. Even the most ecumencially minded bishops have still done tremendous good for Orthodoxy (think who transalted the Triodion and Philokalia ino English). Give Constantinople some time and the monastics within her will set her back on the proper course IMO.

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Why would anyone want to be in communion with them?

Those who follow our Lord's commands: "forgive," "love," "judge not," those who hate schism and do not want to be in a little group of their own off to the side, but want all to be in communion in one Orthodox Church: these are who want to be in communion with them. Not communion before orthodoxy and orthopraxy: but certainly communion when its time comes. I don't know that all of the recent moves by the MP were made for wholly Orthodox reasons, but they are at least moving in the right direction.

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Re: The Evil Patriarchates

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Julianna wrote:

It is too sad that the Patriarchates of Moscow and Costantinople martyred so many genuine Orthodox Christians. Why would anyone want to be in communion with them?

The GOC who were killed were very few...

The Chruch's main persecutors in the 20th century were the Communists (in Russia, Albania, China, Romania etc), the Papists (in Yugoslavia), the Turks (1922), as well as the Boxers in China (1900). It seems that the modern martyrs (who were actually put to death) were about 2,000,000 SAINTS!!! The lesser known new martyrs of Asia Minor were killed and tortured by Kemal Attaturk's troops for refusing to deny Christ or abandon their flock. One of them was St. Chrysostom the Metropolitan of Smyrna.

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