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[OrthodoxyOrDeath]

Romiosini,

Bishops and priests who had an orthodox confession, but who were nevertheless united through communion with Arianism, are known as Arians. There were Arian monasteries who had an orthodox confession of faith (and the Arians were happy to let them be until such time as they had the power to do something about them), but because they were under Arian bishops they were and are known as Arians.

Their monasteries no doubt, looked much much more Orthodox than this picture you are showing. In fact, if one could see those pictures today and compare them to the pictures they might see of St. Athanasios worshipping in homes, most would certainly conclude the Arians were Orthodox and St. Athanasios was, well, something strange.

But this is just it. People are impressed with appearances, numbers, and are seduced by the impression it brings.

[romiosini]

But this is just it. People are impressed with appearances, numbers, and are seduced by the impression it brings.

Well in this case, have you ever gone to these monasteries at all to say to see yourself if what you are saying is true. That people are seduced by appearances, numbers, or the impression of things? By all means, be an anti-ecumenist, but stop the prejudice!

[Joseph]

Did you not read the previous explanation? If they are under ecumenist bishops, they are ecumenists. Beauty, appearance, long beards or whatever does not make one Orthodox today even as it did not make an Arian Orthodox.

[joasia]

CHRIST IS RISEN!

Did you not read the previous explanation? If they are under ecumenist bishops, they are ecumenists. Beauty, appearance, long beards or whatever does not make one Orthodox today even as it did not make an Arian Orthodox.

The issue is alot deeper than that. Yes, ecumenists have their agenda and yes, an appearance does not qualify a bishop or priest to be Orthodox. An old calendarist bishop or priest, who has a beard and prays everyday could have a sicker heart than an ecumenist one. But, let's have some concideration for those who are in the ecumencial circle who may be involved in circumstances that you have no right to judge. The Patriarch has made his beliefs clear, but think about the other millions of faithful who are involved in their particular circumstances. This includes, Patriarchs, bishops, priest, monastics and laymen.

The issue of ecumenism is clear, but the circumstance of each individual can only be judged by God. A monastic, in an ecumenical monastery, may be more spiritual than one in an old calendar Greek one. The difference is the level of compassion. It's the state of the heart.

A new calendar Greek monk may never judge anyone, but an old calendarist one may...who do you think is doing God's work?

Ecumenism must be fought, but let's fight the sin and not the sinner. In other words, we should make battle with the invisible warefare, but we should pray for those who are tempted. Everybody has a chance to change their ways before they die.

[Sabbas]

I noticed someone mentioned some months back that the individual who runs orthodoxinfo.com left the Cyprians and joined the ROCOR. Since then I have noticed the introduction of a "new calendar" menaion, pilgrimages to ecumenist monasteries, articles supporting the MP, and other subtle changes. I guess I am now wondering just how subtle they are, and if they will stay subtle. Will all the articles describing and supporting the Cyprianite position be removed at some point (maybe they are already slowly being removed?). Not that I agree with the Cyprianites strange ecclesiology, but their publications which were hosted at this site did at least offer many good insights.

Too bad.

http://orthodoxinfo.com

Patrick Barnes actually attends services at the AA mission I attend in Iowa City. From what I read in the periodical "Orthodox Tradtion" he was at one time a reader at the 'Greek Synod in Resistance church in Cedar Falls. It has bothered me that he removed all the information about the True Orthodox in Romania and Bulgaria. A lot of people found his info on the Old Calendar churches of Romania, Bulgaria, and Greece very helpful including myself and I am sad to see it go particularly after I read the book Resisting unto Blood by Constantin Bujor telling about all the persecution of the True Orthodox Church of Romania. I wonder why he took that information off when people should know what was done to them.

[Anastasios]

I have information that he no longer attends the AA mission but has moved and now attends another Old Calendar but in communion with everyone else Church. I won't post where or any other details as that would be a release of personal info beyond what I am willing to do.

[Joseph]

What is "AA mission"????