AN ORTHODOX VIEW OF HARRY POTTER

Ebor · Post by **Ebor** » Sat 19 March 2005 3:15 pm

Then there's "The Hidden Key to Harry Potter" by John Granger, who is EO:
http://www.zossima.com/theptleader.htm

Ebor

EHN · Post by **EHN** » Sat 19 March 2005 4:33 pm

ania wrote:
It's amazing how we're quick to discredit evengelicals or Catholics, or even those who are not in your own jurisdiciton, when it pleases us to say "they are heretics or schismatics, what would they know?", but when they support our purposes all of a sudden their word is gospel truth and held up as examples for Orthodox.

You might have that attitude toward them. If you do I would suggest you change it. While the Orthodox Church and its theology is the only Truth many non-Orthodox live their lives in a more God pleasing way than we.

joasia · Post by **joasia** » Sat 19 March 2005 5:25 pm

Ania,

What's your problem?? You don't even have the common sense to understand these posts? Why are you so adement in defending sourcery??? Anybody who had any sense of spiritual warefare would at least understand the stance against such writings; but it may not be possible for a person to, at least say, "yeah, I see what you mean", if that person is involved in such activities. Are you????

You sound like you are trying to deny any existence of an evil force. These books are not put out there for entertainment. They are put out there to cause a spiritual distraction away from the Truth.

Why do you insist on supporting this garbage???????

Maria · Post by **Maria** » Sat 19 March 2005 8:44 pm

Ebor wrote:
Then there's "The Hidden Key to Harry Potter" by John Granger, who is EO:
http://www.zossima.com/theptleader.htm

Ebor

Re: Granger's article

This seems so one-sided even though it is presented by a Greek Orthodox. I remember reading this and the discussion that followed on Come Receive the Light. It was disturbing to me because Granger was viewing the HP with only one perspective.

CS Lewis' The Chronicles of Narnia were obvious references to Christ, the fall of man, the salvation of man through Christ's death and resurrection, baptism, and the end times. There was so much for Christians to discover and grow in their faith. I cannot see the same parallel in HP.

YSIC
Maria

ania · Post by **ania** » Sat 19 March 2005 10:58 pm

EHN wrote:
You might have that attitude toward them. If you do I would suggest you change it. While the Orthodox Church and its theology is the only Truth many non-Orthodox live their lives in a more God pleasing way than we.

You've obviously not looked around this forum very much, if you think that is my attitude.

ania · Post by **ania** » Sat 19 March 2005 11:05 pm

joasia wrote:
Ania,

What's your problem?? You don't even have the common sense to understand these posts? Why are you so adement in defending sourcery??? Anybody who had any sense of spiritual warefare would at least understand the stance against such writings; but it may not be possible for a person to, at least say, "yeah, I see what you mean", if that person is involved in such activities. Are you????

You sound like you are trying to deny any existence of an evil force. These books are not put out there for entertainment. They are put out there to cause a spiritual distraction away from the Truth.

Why do you insist on supporting this garbage???????

I'm not defending anything but the idea that some people actually have the good sense to read the books and judge for themselves.

Here is the link to Deacan Andrey Kuraev's website, for those of you who understand Russian. http://www.kuraev.ru/booksogl.html. It's the 2nd link from the bottom.

You accuse me of not listening to other peoples sides, however, you don't even think that what I say might have some merrit. After all, at least I have read the books and have some inkling of what I am talking about. And besides that... you know what, forget it, I give up. I've got better things to do than to sit here and try to have an intelligent debate with people who are not open to any other possible opinions than their own.

Good Night.

joasia · Post by **joasia** » Sun 20 March 2005 6:57 pm

Ania wrote:

You accuse me of not listening to other peoples sides, however, you don't even think that what I say might have some merrit.

Your support of a positive attitude towards these writings, definitely has no merit. There is NO place for magic and magicians in an Orthodox perspective. It's stated in the Bible and you should read the life of Sts. Cyprian and Justina. There is no good that comes from supporting any fantasy of the world of magic.

After all, at least I have read the books and have some inkling of what I am talking about.

I would not waste my time reading these books. But, I certainly know what it promotes, without reading them.

And besides that... you know what, forget it, I give up. I've got better things to do than to sit here and try to have an intelligent debate with people who are not open to any other possible opinions than their own.

That's not a very good attitude for a so-called Orthodox. Actually, I am surprised that I would even be arguing such a view on sorcery with a fellow Orthodox. I thought we were suppose to have the same belief system. But, I guess a lot of Orthodox people are delving into other realms.

What do you want to hear from other fellow Orthodox? That socery is harmless? That the ideas of magic is a fun concept for children to grow up with? What?

When you're ready for an "intelligent" debate, I'll be here. But, from what I see, you are naive concerning the detriment of any involvement with sorcery, which includes reading their stupid books. Try reading the lives and writings of saints instead. Why do you waste your brain cells with the stupidity of sorcery?