Statement of Comm Dir of ROCOR Synod

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Statement of Comm Dir of ROCOR Synod

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Statement of Nicholas A. Ohotin, Communications Director of the Synod of Bishops and New York Representative of the Russian Ecclesiastical Mission in Jerusalem

Since the statement made by the Secretary of Inter-Orthodox Affairs of the Department for External Church Relations of the Moscow Patriarchate has caused consternation even among those who support the rapprochement of the two parts of the Russian Church, and has complicated the situation, it is worth noting that the declaration of the representative of the DECR, Protopriest Nikolai Balashov, was an unfortunate attempt to whitewash the violent, unlawful actions of 1997-2000, in which the DECR was directly involved. This statement by the DECR Secretary is of no significance to the joint Committees, their work and joint decisions.

The two appointed Committees exist on the Synodal level. They are directed to draft joint documents which are being submitted for approval by the Hierarchies. No limitations exist in the scope of the points of contention being considered. No alleged exclusions from the matters placed before the Committees of questions pertaining to the Holy Land or matters connected with this complex issue were envisioned. Property questions are not excluded from the agenda, nor are questions on the actual cessation of lawsuits over property, or the filing of new claims. The reference to a future united Russian Church which would decide everything is irrelevant, since the task of the Committees consists of determining the path of towards this future.

At the next meeting, planned for early March, it is expected that all the obstacles standing between the two parts of the Russian Church will be considered with the aim of drafting joint resolutions, or possible options thereof, to present to the Hierarchies. It may be that the apparent violation of the Committees' own rules by the Secretary of the Committee of the Moscow Patriarchate in his capacity of a secretary of the DECR will be discussed. It is beyond belief that one Committee member tried to make such an unusual political play of the internal questions on the Committees' agenda by making such a suggestion. It was intentionally decreed from the beginning that the Committees would work behind closed doors. It was with the aim of avoiding harmful polemics in the press and to protect the work of the Committees from external pressure that the decision was made to work in a closed forum, even though this has led to criticism. The Synod of Bishops of the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia may send a request to the Synod of the Moscow Patriarchate to publish the entire set of documents thus far drafted, but any such decision depends on the consent of both sides, on the Synodal level.

Meanwhile, the statement made by the President of the Committee of the Russian Church Abroad, His Eminence Archbishop Mark of Berlin and Germany, was unavoidable--and legitimate. The problem is that a matter set before the Committees was presented in a one-sided fashion, without consideration of the very existence of the Committees. The reference to a status quo is unjustified. In fact, it is at this very moment that the status quo is being violated. The desire to legally formalize that which has not yet been formalized that was expressed is a new development in the real circumstances today. As is well known, the actual status quo involves the presence on the territory of the Jericho monastery of monastics belonging not only to the Moscow Patriarchate but to the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia. Finally, the seizure of the monasteries in Jericho and Hebron through the use of force on the part of the Palestinian Administration under Yassir Arafat was viewed in the Holy Land as a violation of the status quo of holy sites in Palestine. This disruption of the status quo greatly alarmed and troubled not only the Jerusalem Patriarchate but many other Christians in Palestine.

The process of dialog with the Moscow Patriarchate was begun in the German Diocese, specifically by His Eminence Archbishop Mark, in 1993. This dialog lasted several years and was accompanied by the blessing of the Council of Bishops of the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia, but was interrupted by the seizure of the Hebron monastery in the summer of 1997. The participants of the dialog issued a Statement in December of 1997, stressing the mutual desire to continue their constructive meetings. In January of 2000, the monastery in Jericho was seized. Despite this, new steps towards the renewal of dialog were made by the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia in the second half of 2000. In this context, the suggestion that there is some new status quo, and the suggestion that certain topics are to be blocked out, are unacceptable.

Since the beginning, both sides stressed that the work of the Committees would be laborious. This has now been proven true. But what is least of all needed now are fresh attempts to justify the policies of recent years which might undermine trust. Such attempts can only inflict new wounds. This instance shows the importance of caution and care. And especially crucial is the prayerful support for the work of the Committees.

Nicholas A Ohotin
Communications Director, Synod of Bishops and
New York Representative of the Russian Ecclesiastical Mission in Jerusalem

Further references (in Russian):

http://www.rocor.de/Vestnik/20001/index.htm
http://www.rocor.de/Vestnik/20002/html/chronika.htm

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Re: Statement of Comm Dir of ROCOR Synod

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Ekaterina wrote:

The process of dialog with the Moscow Patriarchate was begun in the German Diocese, specifically by His Eminence Archbishop Mark, in 1993. This dialog lasted several years and was accompanied by the blessing of the Council of Bishops of the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia,

WHOA! That is actually HUGE news. They are actually admitting this now? Any one who is familliar with the history of the ROAC will know that this was what the bishops in Russia had accused the ROCOR synod of and it was all denied until now. WOW! :shock:

OrthodoxyOrDeath

Post by OrthodoxyOrDeath »

Yes, this is very interesting.

The truth always seems to come out and the fact that it didn't at the time shows that someone had something to hide; and whatever your position, it also shows the ROCOR has been working with a hidden adgenda all these years just as a predator works in secret so it can lay the best trap.

My how things have changed. Even the ROCOR bishops are calling themseves schismatics now. Oh, my Lord.

Justin Kissel

Post by Justin Kissel »

OOD,

Your words seem a bit harsh. Was St. John Chrysostom being a predator when he lied to his friend (Treastise on the Priesthood, 1)? Do we not instead try to derive moral insight from this deception? Should Rahab the harlot be condemned as a predator for lying (Jos. 2:1-24)? Is not this deception in fact the only thing about her which is said to be praiseworthy (James 2:25; cf St. Gregory the Theologian, Oration 40:19)? Did not Nathan the Prophet use deception when speaking with King David (2 Sam. 12:1-7)? And was this not according to the Scripture the Lord's will?

It seems to me that ROCOR's "hidden agenda" was to do anything and everything to bring about unity in the Church. Thus, they would commune with all sorts of Greek Old Calendarists, ranging from the Matthewites to those under Met. Cyprian, from Bishops like Peter of Astoria to your own Synod in the 70's. Thus, they were willing to simultaneously talk with both the MP and those who had left the MP on far from good (or canonical) terms. Thus, even after Met. Valentine left, the ROCOR were willing to accept him back into their fold. The ecclesiastical world is not so black and white or squeaky-clean as you make it out to be here, my friend. ROCOR's bishops are not predators; if they must be labeled anything it would be lambs, because they were willing to let themselves get repeatedly used and abused by all sorts of people and synods in their loving efforts to attain some type of lasting unity. This is not to say that they were totally innocent, of course--but I believe their faults have more to do with simplicity and love than being schisty and dastardly.

And every time the ROCOR were used and abused, they were also the ones who were blamed for a schism and ridiculed as having "changed course". For 30 years people have been saying this. For even longer people have been accusing them of using deception. Yet for the most part, in the face of all of this turmoil that has been thrust upon them, they have kept their silence as they are supposed to do. And their silence in the face of such violence against them is one of the things I most respect about ROCOR.

OrthodoxyOrDeath

Post by OrthodoxyOrDeath »

Justin,

It seems to me that ROCOR's "hidden agenda" was to do anything and everything to bring about unity in the Church.

When the Orthodox speak of unity it is a unity of faith; so when you speak of "unity in the Church" I presume you mean unity among those who share the same faith. This is of course a noble ambition. But when negotiations take place for the purpose of changing your faith then I look at that very suspiciously. And then when I see negotiations took place in secret for one faith (the MP) a full year before another faith was accepted (the Cyprianites), well, this sounds predatory to me.

In the example of St. John the Chysostom, I did not see that he changed his faith. Maybe its just that we have a different opinion on communion and unity with heretics and are talking past eachother? Of course that is a serious question. I will not allow you to reduce this down to a simple issue of the "unity of the Church", as if everyone shares the same faith, unless of course you really believe it. Do you?

Justin Kissel

Post by Justin Kissel »

I think we disagree as to how far the faith of various local churches diverge.

OrthodoxyOrDeath

Post by OrthodoxyOrDeath »

Justin,

Yes, I believe we may diverge here greatly. And we could talk about some of the more notable examples, all of which have been read here before; but I'm afraid these life threatening issues no longer interest people anymore. Yes, they are discussed over and over, but they don't have any traction because people have essentially rejected them, and they are not rejected by any tradition of the Church, certainly not. On the contrary, despite the fact that the historic Church strenuously implores them to flee their “bishops” on any one of a number of issues, they remain in communion with Christ's enemies. Despite that even their own bishops declare they are building churches together with heretics, they find excuses to remain comfortable. They are not the ones who immediately drop their nets when Christ says, “follow me”.

So people can think as they will, but I will by no means think of myself as “harsh” for following and repeating what the Church has loudly declared. I realize there are many people who are overly burdened with the passion of wanting to be accepted socially, and bend themselves any which way to avoid being thought of as “harsh” by the world. But often what is “harsh” in the world is often not harsh spiritually, and what is spiritually harsh is most often not harsh in the world.

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