Seeker,
Stop holding onto a false faith in the pope. There is more happening than you know.
Pope John Paul II, in a gesture of friendship with the Orthodox Church, on Saturday handed over the bones of two early Christian saints that were brought to Rome from ancient Constantinople centuries ago.
Wern't these relics actually stolen from Constantinople?
The Vatican said the return of the saints' relics was part of the pope's efforts to promote Christian unity and dismissed any suggestion that John Paul was "asking pardon" for their removal by Crusaders from the seat of the Orthodox Church.
Since he is not asking pardon, then this point is useless. What about the heretical issue?
While a choir sang in Greek and Latin, the two religious leaders blessed the relics, before the reliquaries were carried away on biers by Vatican ushers in dark suits acting as pallbearers.
Talk about obvious ecumenism.
In remarks read for him by an aide, the frail pontiff called it a "blessed occasion to purify our wounded memories" and to "strengthen our path of reconciliation."
He is such a liar. What he really wants is reconcilliation under his authority and the Patriarch has sold out a long time ago. What about the papal repentance?
Bartholomew, speaking next, said the handover repaired "an anomaly" and "ecclesiastical injustice" and that it was a sign that there are no "insurmountable problems in the Church of Christ."
I want to barf.
"For eight hundred years, these relics have been in exile," Bartholomew said at service. "This gesture differentiates (Catholic leaders) from the deed of their predecessors eight centuries ago."
No. Acknowledging their heresy differentiates them...but that ain't gonna happen folks, so don't hold your breath.
"Without negating the tragic events of the XIII century," Navarro-Valls said, the gesture was intended to promote unity between Catholics and Orthodox.
Under who's terms?
The Greek Orthodox Byzantine Empire ultimately collapsed when the Muslim Ottoman Turks conquered the city in 1453, but the Ecumenical Patriarchate remained in the city.
Good point to mention. Who did they ask for help during that attack? hmmmm. Was it perhaps, their Western brothers? Who them refused to send help because they wanted the East to be destroyed?
My, how the liars do persist. It's amazing.
The Vatican cannot be trusted. They want to hold onto to their power and they will not humble themselves. They have no true faith, starting with the pope.
Tom says,
IMO, purely historical. The "veneration of relics" is another area where the Church used faith to raise money. Martin Luther was right.
Tom, you've really been spiritually damaged with your protestant influences. I feel sorry for you. You don't know what you're missing. You sound like an empty man. You just don't get it...you are really truely blind to the truth.
Nobody should expect Tom to answer..he just likes to through the s--t into the ring and observe the reactions. There's alot of anger in his flippant remarks. He has alot of spiritual issues to work out. Right Tom?
