High Tech Passports

Justin Kissel · Post by **Justin Kissel** » Wed 27 October 2004 3:39 am

Well, let me put it this way, I'll need to see much more to be convinced. People said that the U.N., and even social security cards, was going to bring about the end of our freedoms. Maybe it will happen yet. But not yet.

Let me give you an example of why I am for it, of why from my perspective the benefits outweigh the possible bad stuff. My wife has a condition called syncope (though the doctor's aren't really positive). She could faint at any time: there's no rhyme or reason to it. She could very well faint someday and hit her head, and maybe I wouldn't be around. Maybe she'd be at a monastery somewhere and I'd be at home. Maybe we'd be on vacation. Whatever the case may be, the point is that she might be somewhere and they would have no clue about her medical history (which is quite extensive, having had multiple heart conditions since she was a baby, two artificial valves, etc.). Now, if you are going to tell me that someone could put a chip inside of her with all of the minute details of her medical history on it... well that could save her life some day. Probably not, but it could. The same thing goes with people like the elderly, or many others, who might live alone or far away from family or friends that visit. There's even the possibility in the future of a chip sending out an alert in case there is a health danger (e.g., a heart attack). Instead of a person pushing a button (they might not even be able to do that), the chip could automatically transmit the signal that something is wrong.

Justin

PS. I've apparently lost my debit card this week. So maybe I have other advantages in mind as well, lol. "Microchips: never leave home without it!"

ARTEMON · Post by **ARTEMON** » Wed 27 October 2004 4:17 am

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gphadraig · Post by **gphadraig** » Wed 27 October 2004 7:18 am

Justin, I understand. However, the points you outline are your agenda. And I would not wish to detract from any of it. However given all the things Governments, big business and others do not tackle in terms of real, and sometimes desperate, need I really wonder what is the true agenda of those orchestrating these things.

A newspaper I read recently quoted a letter from a reader who had visited the U.S. and was quizzed about some minor infraction he had committed years ago and forgotten about. Puzzled about both why and how the matter was even raised he inquiried only to be told the information was contained in his passport?

Now I do not know if this is an urban myth? But if true, then I wonder what other information is, unknown to us, contained in the various new forms of ID. Being able to prove I am John Doe of Bloggs Town is one thing but unknowingly providing a biography to every Government official and jobsworth who demands these things is something else.

Already I understand that information on buying patterns gleened from store loyalty cards is made available to the British Government. There your lawyer is compelled to notify to the same Government any evidence or thought that their client may have been involved or party to financial offences! And they are forbidden to give any indication to their client of their actions!

George Orwell's Big Brother is here and very active, thank you very much. You or I may close our eyes but it is not happening simply in Britain but throughout the English speaking world and beyond. And I write as someone who views the conspiracy theorists with extreme caution.

Justin Kissel · Post by **Justin Kissel** » Wed 27 October 2004 7:45 am

Fair enough. And after thinking more about these posts, I've come to realise that a good part of my response is probably a biased against anything Protestant when it comes to eschatology. My own Wesleyan group's eschatological belief were way out in left field, as were many of the beliefs of friends I had from other groups (according to them, I've now joined Satan's forces since I'm Orthodox). Since that time, I have always had a bad association with anything appearing to say the same things. That's a dumb way to go about life. I shall definately review what people are saying and think about it more before I open my mouth again.

gphadraig · Post by **gphadraig** » Wed 27 October 2004 10:07 am

I can understand that caution given your past experience; and seperating what may be fact or reasonable concern is not always helped by some really 'wacky' or 'spoiling' stories which run the rounds.

ARTEMON · Post by **ARTEMON** » Wed 27 October 2004 3:57 pm

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gphadraig · Post by **gphadraig** » Wed 27 October 2004 5:27 pm

No, Artemon, just confused about your post. I see evil in so many things daily and am likely to simply miss odd hand gestures, especially as such things are probably exhibiting to signal and identify one follower to another I suppose. In which case the gesture will be quick and likely to be missed by anyone, save one looking for it.

The gestures I see are usually of the insulting variety, and I tend to give those the minimum attention, for obvious reasons.