The Kingdom Of Heaven IS The Dreamworld (WHICH IS WITHIN)

Justin Kissel · Post by **Justin Kissel** » Tue 31 August 2004 1:55 pm

Funniest response I've seen to this post yet:

"My wife once had a dream about a goat that lived underwater. If that goat is in Heaven, I will give you a dollar." - Lovejoy, Theologyonline.com Forum

gphadraig · Post by **gphadraig** » Tue 31 August 2004 6:00 pm

This belief is contrary to the teaching of both the Old Testament and the New. It is the sort of Gnostic nonsense which is broadcast far and and wide these days. I will come back on this and other false teachings, God willing, in the next few weeks.

Mykael · Post by **Mykael** » Tue 31 August 2004 7:38 pm

"The spiritists of our time accept every appearance from the spiritual world as sent by God and immediately boast that it has been 'revealed' to them. I was myself acquainted with an eighty-year-old monk who was respected by everyone as a great spiritual guide. When I asked him if he had ever seen any being from the spiritual world in his lifetime, he answered me: 'No, never; and praise be to God for his mercy!' Seeing my astonishment at this, he said: 'I have constantly prayed to God that nothing should ever appear to me, lest I fall into illusion and accept a devil disguised as an angel. And, until now, God has heard my prayer." St. Nicolai Velimirovich, The Prologue

Mykael · Post by **Mykael** » Tue 31 August 2004 7:40 pm

Demons often transform themselves into angels of light and take the form of martyrs, and make it appear to us during sleep that we are in communication with them. Then, when we wake up, they plunge us into unholy joy and conceit. But you can detect their deceit by this very fact. For angels reveal torments, judgments and separations; and when we wake up we find that we are trembling and sad. As soon as we begin to believe the demons in dreams, then they make sport of us when we are awake too. He who believes in dreams is completely inexperienced. But he who distrusts all dreams is a wise man. Only believe dreams that warn you of torments and judgments. But if despair afflicts you, then such dreams area also from demons. St John Climacus, "The Ladder of Divine Ascent", Step 3: On Exile or Pilgrimage (Boston: Holy Transfiguration Monastery, 1978)

Anastasios · Post by **Anastasios** » Thu 2 September 2004 12:54 pm

I used to be involved in the occult and can tell you, anyone thinking of this idea--stay AWAY from dream interpretation. I could really raise some scary stories but I prefer not to dish out the dirt online