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ROCA 2000 Sobor

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Can anyone please explain exactly what happened at the 2000 Sobor and the direct fall out of this?

How many churches left the ROCA?

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Post by ania »

Good luck getting a clear answer for this one.
I'm pretty sure only ROCiE got created from the split (who followed the Mansonville crowd), though some people went over to ROAC.

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Gregory,

Maybe this will help you in your quest:

There are sheer mountains of "information" available regarding this topic. You can surely "dig them up" using many, many lists which have already "beat this poor horse to death".

One could always utilize any one of a number of "search engines", utilizing specific phraseology, and the results would prove astounding, and probably in the thousands of "results" available.

Might I also suggest that you subscribe to Orthodox Life published by Holy Trinity Monastery Press, in Jordanville, New York, and ask to purchase all back issues from your 'subject date' forward. The information presented, I'm sure, should be more than adequate as anything obtained using this medium is usually 2nd or 3rd hand and not nearly as reliable.

At the VERY least, it would be FACTUAL, rather than hearsay.

As an aside, your moniker, nom-de-plume, ascribes your allegiance to the "Orthodox Church in America" does it not?

John

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One could always utilize any one of a number of "search engines", utilizing specific phraseology, and the results would prove astounding, and probably in the thousands of "results" available.

Yes, I know, that's why I was asking here.

Might I also suggest that you subscribe to Orthodox Life published by Holy Trinity Monastery Press, in Jordanville, New York, and ask to purchase all back issues from your 'subject date' forward. The information presented, I'm sure, should be more than adequate as anything obtained using this medium is usually 2nd or 3rd hand and not nearly as reliable.

At the VERY least, it would be FACTUAL, rather than hearsay.

I feel that I may have struck a nerve with you. :)

As an aside, your moniker, nom-de-plume, ascribes your allegiance to the "Orthodox Church in America" does it not?

Yes, I am currently a member of the OCA. Don't tell anyone...its a secret.

Gregory

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Post by John Haluska »

Gregory,

My apologies for trying to help, because that is what I was actually trying to accomplish.

I should have realized what you are trying to do. How naive of me. Have fun.

Thanks for the info, as that's what I thought.

Again, my apologies for trying to help.

John

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Post by Gregory »

Dear John --

I should have realized what you are trying to do. How naive of me. Have fun.

Actually, I truly am interested. It was not asked out of malice. Sorry I sounded so sarcastic.

I posted this question to learn what members thought about this, that's all.

Gregory

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Post by Joshua F »

Monasterypress.com covered the events leading up to and following the 2000 sobor in great detail and played a major role in exposing the political machinations behind the seemingly illegitimate succession of Bishop Laurus, as well as the fundamental ideological shift behind this "changing of the guard".

The archives of this coverage are still online at http://www.monasterypress.com/statements.html and are more or less intact - there's a huge amount of material to go through there, and it's by far the most complete collection on the subject I have encountered.

Monastery Press was operated by the brotherhood of St. Job of Pochaev, in the Podvoria in Montreal (the former official residence of Metropolitan Vitaly), until being transferred to Priest Andrew Kencis of Edmonton, Alberta, Canada to continue active printing operations in lieu of a declining brotherhood membership. Since then, the press has published several titles, including "The New Martyrs of Russia" and "The Way of the Cross", and is currently producing a massively expanded edition of the "New Martyrs of Russia" that will be the most complete collection on this subject yet published in any language. Monasterypress.com is certainly traditionalist, most definitely prolific, but absolutely not given to the fabrication of any sort of information... what is on the site is precisely the news of the day as it was recieved, so if you are interested in viewing the events as they unfolded through the eyes of someone against keeping secrets, it would be the place to go.

Joshua

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