Another Jurisdiction Poll

[Etienne]

"What's the difference?" Well Serbia is the country and Serbians are the people of the that country.

Sorry, couldn't resist it - although I know the listing given invited the question............

[Justin Kissel]

Lol, sorry, I included Serbia in the ROCOR/TOC category. I was rushing to get it posted, I guess, and made that foolish mistake.

[CGW]

Secondly, as the poll on this thread shows, most people on this forum are not even in the more traditionalist groups. The breakdown might be made as follows:

Less Traditional Groups (GOC, EP, MP, Serbia, Antioch, etc.): 8-9
Traditional Groups (Serbians, ROCOR, JP, TOC, etc.): 17-18
More Traditional Groups (ROAC, GOC, ROCiE, HOCNA, etc.): 12-13

But in a sense, this very table suggests what is going on. There is a difference between retaining traditions and insisting that traditions be retained. Likewise, the same difference seems to exist in the attitudes of the various members here-- and that attitude doesn't have to correspond to their church membership.

In particular, ROCOR seems to have always attracted traditionalists. Back in April (I think-- I can't find the specific post) you recorded the affiliations of the top posters, commenting on the diversification of the forum from mostly ROCOR to a mix of groups. What I see in the affiliations recorded at that time is that it was dominated by members of the last group you list. This suggests to me laymen who sought out ROCOR as a traditionalist jurisdiction, and, in finding out that this wasn't the case, switched their allegiance to groups which specifically advertised themselves as traditionalist.

Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems to me that behind almost every discussion here, the issue of traditionalism can be found.

[Fr.Anthimos]

Where are the Genuine Orthodox Church of Greece and Diaspora under His Beatitudine Archbishop Makarios of Athens and all Greece?

Fr.Anthimos
www.gocromania.com

[Justin Kissel]

Father Anthimos,

Greetings The site doesn't seem to be working for me...? I would think most of the GOC's (the ones I've read about, anyway) would be under the last group, with the GOC/ROAC/etc.

CGW,

ROCOR is a bit of a neutral place... there are people in it that range from crazy ultra-zealots to nearly-liberal people. Even on this forum, a wide range is seen among ROCOR members. You have a very valid point, I think, in what you say about people converting to ROCOR, and also about them sometimes moving on from there. But in a way, I think all Orthodox are "traditionalist"... it's just to a greater or lesser extent that we are traditionalist. It is true that the top posters tend to skew towards the last group... I'm not sure what to say about that other than it's a legit point. So, you would be correct in saying that the posting in general skews towards one side... though I would say that the number of more moderate people here tends to keep things from being just a pro-ultra-traditionalist site.