Archbishop GREGORY of Denver and Colorado

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Dn. Nicholas doesn't want you to leave, he wants us to discuss things like Christians, not enemies or members of factions

Saying someone has "the spirit of Anti-Christ" because they say something negative about Bishop Gregory is a personal attack and totally unacceptable.

Amen and Amen! And of course, thank you Matushka Christina for such a well thought out post simply explaining the facts of the situation from someone who has been an unwilling witness and even an unwilling participant in these sorrowful events.

[Etienne]

This whole affair appears to have stirred up a lot of extremely strong emotions, and seen people taking sides. One thing would seem to be sure, Satan appears to have been very busy! Another, secular, interpretation would be that when the emotions rush in, the thinking is squeezed out!

I have already suggested on another related thread that as this affair is due to be examined by the Synod of ROAC, would it not be better to wait the outcome of that investigation?

Presently there appears to be too many Popes all having infallible views. Seeking information or clarification is one thing, attacking each other and taking sides something else.

Are Christians not distinguised in, "that they love one another". While this love is not the sentimental 'love' so often referred to in secular life, some of that has appeared on these threads appears more akin to something very different and dark.

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To Etienne and Others:

Throughout this ordeal, I have been asked to speak the Truth on behalf of the Diocese of Colorado, the parishoners of Saint Basil of Kineshma Church, (site) and to attempt through all of this to show that we do not take sides, but to the contrary, do what is required of us and that is to stand firm with the Church and Her Synod.

I ask forgiveness if I have failed in this attempt as it seems that through my actions I have caused more discord and sowed many seeds of hatred and bigotry among the bretheren of this forum. Again I ask or your forgiveness and if the charges that I point out in myself are true, I beg you to please tell me. If it is necassary, I will cease to speak of this issue until, as many have said, the Synod speaks on behalf of the Church body as a whole.

It seems that there are a few places, if not many as there are some who have pointed this out to me as well where it would have been better for me to just "shut up and wait my turn" (my words) rater than open my mouth and "let the devil speak for me" (again my words). I pray that by my actions I have not caused scandal to anyone and if this is the case i plead for your forgiveness.

In Christ,
Juvenaly
http://www.orthodoxynow.com

[Etienne]

Juvenaly, God forgives. This whole episode is clearly a very difficult one and especially for those directly affected. All that you, I, and others can do is to pray and, as you say, await the Synodal judgement.

If anyone has information or evidence on this matter then the proper place to submit that is to the Synod of ROAC.

Best wishes, Sir,

[Nathaniel Kapner]

My dear Brothers and Sisters,

It is the time for reconciliation between all of us in our various affiliations.
It is also the time for unmasking deception. The following is the beginning of the unmasking of the deception of Abp Gregory, who in the guise of 'right-confessing,' holds The Truth in contempt.

I was a novice with Abp Gregory for almost 2 years, and I was deceived. I believed in all of his propaganda that he was the last confessing bishop in the West. After my jailing by priest-monk, Fr Peter Wheeler, and the Abp's defending this priest monk for Jailing me, and then he, after I submitted Formal Charges, he making uncanonical counter-charges against me (a future post), I realized that Abp. Gregory cares nothing for the Canons nor the Gospel. The last two months have been absolute hell for me, as the Abp has done many shameless things to me. Not only this, but many evil things about him from his past have come to light, which I will post in the future.

My hope in making these posts, is that innocents will be warned about Abp Gregory . I also hope that he will repent. My biggest hope, is that we who call ourselves 'Traditional Orthodox Christians,' will look for ways, in a spirit of deep respect for one another, to unite together. We can do it. Let's be easy on one another.

Here is how it all began:

1. June 24, 05 - The Abp and Fr. George were in Greece, meeting with Lamian bishop, Met Angelos, to obtain a secret ordination of Fr George to the bishopric.
   It was my Name's day. I told Br. John to tell Fr. Peter that the Abp. gave me my name's day off and I would not be cooking.

2. June 24, 05 - After lunch Fr. Peter asked me why I wasn't cooking. I stated that the Abp gave me my name day off. Fr. Peter replied with hostility, "You're lying!" and forbade me communion and then a penance to clean the Trapeza and bathrooms. I obeyed.

3. June 25, 05 - At 6:30 AM I was trimming the lamps in Church. Fr. Peter walked in,made a prostration and said "If I have offended you,forgive me".

   I answered, "not IF - you made a false, unsubstantiated charge against me, excommunicated me, and attached a harsh penance ; He replied, "I still hold to what I did." I responded, "I am going to bring formal charges against you for an abuse of your priesthood." FP became indignant.

4 June 25, 05 - 7:30 AM, I walked down to Mother Mariam's convent in hopes of diffusing a tense situation. I knocked on Mother Mariam's door but no answer. I sat outside.

1. June 25, 05 - 8:15 AM. The Police, Fr. Peter, Sbn John Watts, and Br Lazarus Keithley approached. I said to the Police, " I am on Mother Mariam's property seeking asylum" Br. Lazarus barked back, "Cut the bull - #!!*#.

6.June 25, 05 - 8:15 AM. FP demanded my cassock that I was wearing, and keys stating that I stole them. The Police said they would arrest me for Theft. I responded, "Please officers, let Mother Mariam intercede for me!" FP refused. The Police told me that I could turn over everything for evidence and just leave the property. They said that I had to relinquish my cassock. I would not take off my cassock and turn it over to the Police.

1. June 25,05 -8:20 AM. FP pressed charges and Deputy Vidmar hand-cuffed me. I was driven to the Chaffe County Prison, where I was in Jail for 3 days. FP did nothing to get me out. I was to appear before a Judge on 6/28/05.

The Police "Uniform Summons #30659 " reads:
"Kapner did unlawfully exercise control of monk-uniform, the property of Fr Peter, and did knowingly deprive the owner of its use." Dated 6/25/05 W. Vidmar, Off.#1304"

I attest with my right on on the Gospel, that all the above is true. After some discussion, I will next post how FP removed all my property from the monastery w/o Abp's permission and how Abp Gregory defended FP for putting me in Jail.

In Christ,

Sub Deacon, Br. Nathaniel Kapner

[Joseph]

Who is Archbishop Gregory?????????

[Nathaniel Kapner]

AN OPEN LETTER TO ABP GREGORY - September 1, 2005

Dear Abp. Gregory,

On August 31, 2005, you, Abp Gregory, posted "Defending Abp. Gregory" to Paradosis under the name of 'Shafik Tadros,' stating:
"Nathaniel[Kapner] is a convert from Judaism, whom I think never really converted."

I know that it was you, Abp. Gregory, who wrote this, and not your parishioner, Shafik Savva Tadros.

I lived at your Dormition Skete monastery for almost 2 years, and on many occasions saw you dictating a Paradosis-posting, to priest-monk Fr. George in his office, and sending it under Shafik Tadros' name.

Shafik Tadros is a parishioner of your priest Fr. John Claypool, who is a Paradosis member. I hope that Fr. John publicly rebukes you before the Paradosis members, so as to remove the guilt you have laid upon the head of Shafik, whose soul, Fr. John is directly responsible for, but will ultimately be required of you.

And why would you also bring sin and guilt upon the head of Fr. George, having him type in the above mentioned posting, "yes this is me Shafik typing."I assure you, one and all, that this is
Savvas typing?"

But I now assure all the Parodosis members, whom you call schismatics and heretics, that it was Fr George typing at your dictation.

And can Fr. George really with a clear conscience submit to an Episcopal ordination you have planned for him with Met Angelos of the Lamians this October, knowing that he is a willing-party to your falsehoods? Does monastic 'obedience, I would ask you and Fr. George, super- cede and preempt God's own commandments?

You wrote, Abp Gregory, in this week's Dormition Skete Sermon which Vladimir Moss sent to me:

Announcement:
"We regret to announce that our Brother Nathaniel is no longer a novice at Dormition Skete.
"We should all never loose sight of the fact that the monastic life is the highest Christian mode of conduct and that very few people are capable of enduring the hardships that are involved."

I responded to all of your parishioners (whats left of them):

"Why don't you tell them all, Abp Gregory, that you justified your priest-monk Fr Peter Wheeler in calling the Police on me and my subsequent Jailing, and that is why I left?
Is this type of 'monatic life' at Dormition Skete -'the highest Christian mode of calling?' "
Are you afraid of the Truth, Abp Gregory - because it will reveal your "deeds as evil?"
Don't you know, Abp. Gregory, that it is a sin to tell a lie?"

And why must you continue to bring more anguish upon my soul through your lies, by stating in your posting yesterday:
"Nathaniel is a convert from Judaism, whom I think never really converted."

You know that at my baptism in 2003 under you, (after being baptized with the OCA in 1988, and chrismated with HOCNA in 1991), that I read, before Fr Dionysios McGowan's parish and my Godfather, Sbn. Jerjis Alajaji, a 3 page letter denouncing Judaism. You were the one who requested me to do so.
And are you now denying the grace of the Holy Spirit in the sanctifying Baptismal waters? This is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.
No, Abp. Gregory, I have put on Christ, and to suffer now for Him owing to your slanders of me, is my gain.

I lived with you at Dormtion Skete for almost 2 years. I gave everything to you. I cooked all of your favorite Syrian dishes. I did your laundry. And over a 2 year period, gave to you over $20,000. I did all of this and more, because I truly believed you were a servant of the Orthodox Church. Would an unconverted Jew do this? My last check to you was dated June 14, 2005 for $1400, right before you left for Greece to have Fr George secretly ordained by Met Angelos of the Lamians. When you deposited that check this past June, was I then an "un-converted Jew?"

When you came back from Greece on July 5th, instead of rebuking Fr Peter, you blamed me, saying, "It was your fault that Father Peter called the Police." "You should have returned FP's prostration." "The State of Colorado put you in Jail, not Father Peter." "You arrested yourself, Nathaniel" "You have just as much blood on your hands as Father Peter if not more, Nathaniel." And like a broken record, "You are a disobedient novice, Nathaniel."

And when you issued your shameless PROTOCOL #62905 against me on July 11, 05, making over 30 Counter-Charges against me in response to my request for an Ecclesiastical Court, you dealt a deep wounding into my soul that I wonder if will ever heal.

My blood has fallen to the ground, Abp Gregory at your hands. I am a broken and wounded man, Abp Gregory. I am a broken and wounded man.

Mournfully,

Sub Deacon Nathaniel Kapner