Archbishop GREGORY of Denver and Colorado

[TomS]

OOD,

So post a link that you feel explains things better.

Here is the "official site"

http://www.russianorthodoxautonomouschu ... erica.com/

[Moronikos]

It was quicker than five weeks. It was closer to two. The pictures show Gregory being elevated to archbisop on May 30th (Gregorian) and the letter that has been posted is dated June 16th (Gregorian). And all of this happened faster than that because I've seen pictures on other ROAC sites of M. Valentine being at some other parishes on the east coast on June 8th (Gregorian). So all the hanky panky happened somewhere between May 30th and June 8th. If we knew the exact date M. Valentine left Colorado, we could pin it down even further.

Whatever happened with Fr. Elia at Burning Bush Monastery? All we ever heard (from the Colorado-ites) was that he was condemned by M. Valentin, but now the letter from M. Valentin states that Gregory had a stolen seal. Was the letter that condemned Fr. Elia a forgery?

[Daniel]

Whatever happened with Fr. Elia at Burning Bush Monastery? All we ever heard (from the Colorado-ites) was that he was condemned by M. Valentin, but now the letter from M. Valentin states that Gregory had a stolen seal. Was the letter that condemned Fr. Elia a forgery?

I have been wondering the samething.

[尼古拉前执事]

As to Deacon Nikolai being ordained a
deacon, one would assume congratulations would be in order....
This is a heavy cross and burden to bear. I will instead keep
Deacon Nikolai in my prayers.

Thank you Reader Chrysostomos. I truly appreciate the prayers!

I also thought it quite unique, that all his messages changed
from his Nicholas name, to Deacon Nikolai. Personally, I
would have rather seen him change his name, and any messages
that he wrote, after being ordained a deacon, could be seen
as such.

I considered setting up a new name but thought it would breed even further confusion. This seems to be as good as place as any for me to ask forgiveness for my past wrongs, polemics, offenses, rudeness and the such.

He now faces a greater challenge as Deacon,
than he had as laity. Thus, his need of our prayers. I would
assume that this also would change his role somewhat as to
what he will be allowed to say on this board, as to what has
been mentioned previously in regards to those who are ordained,
and what they are allowed to speak and not to speak.
Metropolitan Valentin ordained Deacon Nikolai and therefore
he is a Deacon and should be addressed and accorded all the
respect one is granted for such a position.

Again you are correct Reader Chrysostomos and again I thank you.

It is my sincere
hope and prayer that Archbishop Gregory will be obedient. It
is my sincere hope and prayer that the enemy will not use this
situation to cause discord and division. It is my sincere hope
that we "all" can learn from this tragic situation, and be better
Orthodox Christians. Let us pray for those of the ROAC and
for specifically Metropolitan Valentin, Archbishop Gregory,
and Deacon Nikolai.

Amen. Kyrie Eleison.

[尼古拉前执事]

OOD,

So post a link that you feel explains things better.

Here is the "official site"

http://www.russianorthodoxautonomouschu ... erica.com/

The official site is actually http://www.roac.ru whereas the above is a link to Archbishop Gregory's site. A lot of good information on ROAC can be found at the Saint Basil site at http://www.russianorthodox-roac.com and the Saint John site at http://www.stjohntherussian.com

[Грешник]

Whatever happened with Fr. Elia at Burning Bush Monastery? All we ever heard (from the Colorado-ites) was that he was condemned by M. Valentin, but now the letter from M. Valentin states that Gregory had a stolen seal. Was the letter that condemned Fr. Elia a forgery?

Moronikos,

My understanding of the situation with Father Elia is this:

Met. Valentine himself rejected the petition of Father Elia. This was not the part of a forgery of a seal on the part of Bp. Gregory. The reasond for the rejection, as far as I know then ur thus:

1. Met. Valentine called Father Elia from Russia: There were no returns to his calls.

2. There were letters written to him from Russia: There were not responses.

3. The Met. wanted to meet Father Elia but again there was no returned call and his attempts to get hold of Father Elia again went for naught.

If the Met. did everything in his power to give Father Elia a chance then why not return his calls, letters, attempts to visit if this is what this monk truly wanted, was acceptance into the Synod. It is odd to me too, but there was no conspiracy in this case.

If and when I get more info on this I will post it for you.

[Daniel]

Thanks, Juvenally.

Given what you said it makes sense then that Fr. Elia wouldn't be accepted.