anastasios -
You are the only one who has mentioned another web site by name.
I have condemned no one.
I just do not think it is right to call anyone "Orthodox" who rejects any of the Ecumenical Councils or who is a member of a sect declared heretical by the Fathers.
There was nothing personal involved in my decision.
It was a matter of conscience and of my own frustration at the status (or lack thereof) accorded Orthodoxy at the other site.
Linus/Lucian,
I'm sure you do believe that you are only standing up for the truth, and that personal feelings don't play into your decisions. I personally believe that that is not possible with people. But I don't know you personally so I will not presume to define your true intentions.
Just to cue you in, most of the people that read OCnet read this site and many on this site read OCnet. So everyone pretty much knows who you were talking about.
anastasios
Disclaimer: Many older posts were made before my baptism and thus may not reflect an Orthodox point of view.
Please do not message me with questions about the forum or moderation requests. Jonathan Gress (jgress) will be able to assist you.
Please note that I do not subscribe to "Old Calendar Ecumenism" and believe that only the Synod of Archbishop Kallinikos is the canonical GOC of Greece. I do believe, however, that we can break down barriers and misunderstandings through prayer and discussion on forums such as this one.
Well, I guess frustration may count as a personal feeling.
Anyway, I bear you no ill will. We disagree on the Non-Chalcedonians, and I did not like the way things were going.
I don't think there is any such thing as a "generic Orthodoxy" that includes groups that reject the councils of the Church, hold some of our saints and fathers heretics, and venerate heretics as saints and fathers.
It really began to trouble me when I discovered that such a generic Orthodoxy was the philosophy over at OC.net.
Until that changes, I won't be participating there.
I'm sure I will soon be forgotten there anyway.
Lucian,
I do not bear you any ill will either. May your posting at this forum be fruitful.
anastasios
Disclaimer: Many older posts were made before my baptism and thus may not reflect an Orthodox point of view.
Please do not message me with questions about the forum or moderation requests. Jonathan Gress (jgress) will be able to assist you.
Please note that I do not subscribe to "Old Calendar Ecumenism" and believe that only the Synod of Archbishop Kallinikos is the canonical GOC of Greece. I do believe, however, that we can break down barriers and misunderstandings through prayer and discussion on forums such as this one.
I cannot speak for Lucian as we are not the same individual nor have the same circumstances. However, for me my primary problem with the new policy of a certain board that shall not be named was one of heartache at seeing those who do not hold the faith of the Orthodox Church as being Orthodox. Those of us who have "left" or are considering same have in fact gone nowhere. It is that place which has left us. We merely stand firm, and while our numbers may be miniscule compared to the overall membership of that other place, our conviction is no less diminished.
Joe Zollars
The problem is, Joe, that 1) you are not yet Orthodox so you have no place to judge and 2) the site has not changed any policies so why didn't you leave before this?
anastasios
Disclaimer: Many older posts were made before my baptism and thus may not reflect an Orthodox point of view.
Please do not message me with questions about the forum or moderation requests. Jonathan Gress (jgress) will be able to assist you.
Please note that I do not subscribe to "Old Calendar Ecumenism" and believe that only the Synod of Archbishop Kallinikos is the canonical GOC of Greece. I do believe, however, that we can break down barriers and misunderstandings through prayer and discussion on forums such as this one.
you are not yet Orthodox either, so how do you suddenly have the ability to determine that heretics condemned countless times by the Orthodox Church are suddenly Orthodox?
In answer to your second question, I personally maintained that there might be hope as the monophysites were not referred to as "Oriental Orthodox" as openly and as blatantly as they are now. Like it or not, but by changing the name of the forum to reflect this false and IMO heretical term you have made it policy that the members of the other place have to accept that as the primary term--as that is the primary term used.
Joe Zollars