i posted:
"and on and on and on . . . but no answers or sense out of all this nonsense . . . in other words, business as usual . . . nestorians and qabbalists, indeed! oh, yeah, and "so i am guilty since i was protecting him?" puhleeeeeeeese!"
then, priest dionysi answered (?) my post ( i suppose replied would be a better description): "I am sorry if I misunderstood something that was said, but an answer was given. It was stated that maybe the ROAC could get a headquarters, and I simply said that they already do.
If this simple but matter of fact type of answer is "on and on...nonesense..." then, I guess that there is no reason to take you seriously and try to converse with you."
fr dionysi, i have absolutely no idea whatsoever as to what you are referring to, as the question of a "headqurters" played no part in my post.
the "on and on and on" i was referring to is this ongoing "story" of name-worshippers, nestorians, and qabbalists that have recently been ejected from ROAC. as i stated in an earlier post, this is so bizarre that it requires some remarks! i dont know if it would be possible to find three more arcane and rare heresies-that is, in connection with the knowledge of the average orthodox christian in these times! "qabbalism," possibly, as a jewish mystical school which was sort of adopted by occultists along the way, has never even been condemned as a "heresy"-i am not aware of any contact between "qabbalists" and the orthodox in recent times, or times long past! i also find it equally bizarre that these three "rare" heretics would be "attracted" to ROAC-a quite small jurisdiction! i know, i know, before you give me the lecture about "it dont matter how small we are," (which was amazingly given previously!) i am not castigating, judging, or condeming ROAC because of its size or lack thereof-only that these three "rare" heretics could find it, and cause all this trouble in it! absolutely amazing!
then, met valentin's pronouncement, "if fr gregory is guilty, am i guilty too, for protecting him?" !!!!!!! an appeal to the "personality" of met valentin, made by himself-this is quite amazing also! can you say "personality cult?" thats why i wrote, "puhleeeese!" then, on top of it all, im not worth talking to because you already said something about a headquarters? what does a headquarters have to do with anyhthing i said, anyways?
to be quite honest, the more i see about ROAC the more suspicious i am becoming! some quite "big" statements, but never any references to back them up (such as: the prosecutor who said if met valentin joined the mp charges would be dropped-i asked-who was he? what is his address? what exactly was being said-that the russian govt was in leagyue with the mp, or the prosecutor worked for the mp-most conveniently no answers; then-tikhonite and josephite catacomb churches joined ROAC-again, questions were asked-who were the leaders? when did they join? how many people with them? again, no answers, no references-"because i said so" will not attract many followers! and then the bizareness factor seems to be growing with this name-worshipper, nestorian, qabbalist thing-added to by met valentin's "appeal" to his own personality!
it also doesnt help "the cause" that some of the followers of ROAC on this forum seem to think (even as catechumens. . . ) that they are quite capable and entitled to condemn entire orthodox churches as being heretics and "parasynagogues of satan," etc etc etc, yet, on the other hand, are very very very touchy about any criticism of ROAC-ya get what ya give, people!
people who have been attached to ROCOR for many years, for entire lifetimes, are quite astonished to see the level of criticism of thier beloved church from ROAC members of less than a year or so . . . again, especially with the "bizarreness" factor-oh-another one is that when the Met Vitaly business was going on at the Synod (ROCOR) hq in nyc, Met Valentin "just happened to be walking by . . . " yeah, right! if you is gonna tell a story, at least tell a believable story! c'mon!
undoubtedly, you still feel im not worth talking to . . . ! i have encountered that response before-i worked with a jehovah's witness-any "religious" subject he brought up, once he "pronounced" on the official jw positon, and i disagreed, and had somethign to back up my disagreement, he would refuse to converse further!
mwoerl
