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greetings:

this is my first post in this forum. I am very happy to have found this site. I belong the to the Orthodox Churches of America diocese and Alaska is still an old calendar church. throughout alaska there they services are served in not only slavonic and english but also the native language of the Parish. In some communities like my own the slavonic is being lost due to the younger generation not being fluent. There are many elders that wish to hear slavonic but many of the choir members and clergy are unable to use slavonic. I really believe that it is the content of the services that needs to be understood no matter what language the service is performed in.

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what language?

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rocor parish i last attended almost exclusively used church slavonic-which i found many many people who speak russian DO NOT UNDERSTAND! older people dont understand it, younger people -almost 100% from my inquiries, do not understand it. someone remarked "older people want to hear slavonic . . ." yeh, they do-as a sort of sentimental comforting thing-but, sorry to say, they do not understand it.
as an aside, "russian" is not used as a liturgical language anywhere that i know of.
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How can people who speak Russian not understand Slavonic? I often ask my husband to "translate" some text in Slavonic for me, and he gives me a rough breakdown in English. I was always under the assumption that Slavonic is like our Old English, and I know I can still pick up some Shakespeare and get what I am reading.

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If you speak Russian or Serbian, or Macedonian or Bulgarian for that matter and cannot BASICALLY understand Slavonic Liturgy then I don't know what to tell you. Maybe you're slow.

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If you speak Russian or Serbian, or Macedonian or Bulgarian for that matter and cannot BASICALLY understand Slavonic Liturgy then I don't know what to tell you. Maybe you're slow.

Now that's a really Christian attitude if I've ever seen one! Many Russians I know, where Russian is their primary language, do not understand Slavonic. In my former parish, when the Otce Nash was sung in English, the entire congregation (all of Russian or Serbian descent--some first generation) would sing. However, when the Otce Nash was sung in Slavonic, one could hear only the choir, and maybe a peep from the congregation. I don't think that this congregation of engineers, doctors, lawyers, and regular folks were "slow" just because they didn't fully understand Slavonic. I think it's more like expecting a person fluent in Spanish or Portuguese to thoroughly understand Latin--yeah maybe somewhat, but it is still a different (archaic) language.

Thank God for Sts. Cyril and Methodius who translated the Greek services into an idiom that was understood by the people of that time, and thank God for St. Innocecnt who translated some of the services and writings into the native American tongues. These men, believing that the Orthodox Church is THE Catholic Church of Christ, acted with a sense of mission to bring all peoples into the true Church and to pray in their own languages (to the tune of 1 Corinthians 14)--unlike the Roman Catholics with their dead Latin and the Islamists with their Arabic.

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Post by Natasha »

SrbMama did not say anything in a non-Christian manner. As I see it, only the English speaking people here are the ones here commenting that Slavs cannot understand Slavonic.

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Natasha wrote:

SrbMama did not say anything in a non-Christian manner. As I see it, only the English speaking people here are the ones here commenting that Slavs cannot understand Slavonic.

Based on face-to-face feedback from Russian and Serbian people.

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