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bogoliubtsy wrote:
Priest Dionysi wrote:

Could you define heresy?

Well, I know for certain that Blessed Metropolitan Anthony Khrapovitsky's Dogma of Redemption is a heretical teaching and is accepted by your Bishop Gregory. Now that's a great example of a heretical teaching which doesn't "destroy" the rest of a man's work or serve as an indicator of some depraved, "heretical" internal disposition.

This is how you define heresy? Maybe this is where the problem is? :idea: Having no idea what heresy is, and what the result of it is, you are comfortable where you are. Now, how do you know "for certain"
that is heretical?

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Priest Dionysi wrote:

No, the Nativity epistle of our Metropolitan is not an embarrassment. In fact, it was reassuring to me that he would use the Incarnation of our Lord, to try to recall those who have chosen the wide and easy path of modernistic ecumenical orthodoxy.

What I notice, however, is that he does not use the Incarnation at all; indeed, one could substitute any occaision at all for the first three paragraphs of the letter. It is a bromide that suggests a severe dessication. One would think there is some middle ground between this and the dilution you so decry.

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Priest Dionysi wrote:
bogoliubtsy wrote:
Priest Dionysi wrote:

Could you define heresy?

Well, I know for certain that Blessed Metropolitan Anthony Khrapovitsky's Dogma of Redemption is a heretical teaching and is accepted by your Bishop Gregory. Now that's a great example of a heretical teaching which doesn't "destroy" the rest of a man's work or serve as an indicator of some depraved, "heretical" internal disposition.

This is how you define heresy? Maybe this is where the problem is? :idea: Having no idea what heresy is, and what the result of it is, you are comfortable where you are. Now, how do you know "for certain"
that is heretical?

This reply was partly in jest, though I do believe it to be true. I'm not going to seriously entertain your questions and address your statements if mine are ignored.

Again, were you a layman in ROCOR? If so, for how long? Please, enquiring minds want to know. And what of this "captivity" of Met. Philaret? What about the examples I cited in my post before last? Anyone? Anyone?

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bogoliubtsy wrote:
Priest Dionysi wrote:
bogoliubtsy wrote:

Well, I know for certain that Blessed Metropolitan Anthony Khrapovitsky's Dogma of Redemption is a heretical teaching and is accepted by your Bishop Gregory. Now that's a great example of a heretical teaching which doesn't "destroy" the rest of a man's work or serve as an indicator of some depraved, "heretical" internal disposition.

This is how you define heresy? Maybe this is where the problem is? :idea: Having no idea what heresy is, and what the result of it is, you are comfortable where you are. Now, how do you know "for certain"
that is heretical?

This reply was partly in jest, though I do believe it to be true. I'm not going to seriously entertain your questions and address your statements if mine are ignored.

Again, were you a layman in ROCOR? If so, for how long? Please, enquiring minds want to know. And what of this "captivity" of Met. Philaret? What about the examples I cited in my post before last? Anyone? Anyone?

Father Dionysios' has not engaged in a discussion on this list for reasons of self agrandizement. His autobiography is not the issue.

The issue at hand is whether or not you understand what heresy is. When you accuse Metropolitan Anthony of being a heretic, the new Solomon of our time, it is necessary to support such a claim, or you risk undermining your entire witness.

George, hegumen

"Obedience is Life and the Opposite is also True."

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Post by bogoliubtsy »

I never called Metropolitan Anthony a heretic, God forbid! I do, however, believe he wrote something which is un-Orthodox. Even St. Gregory of Nyssa wrote and said things which are rejected by the Church. Does this make him a heretic? Of course not.

The issue is not "whether or not I know what heresy is". If you'd like to make this the sole issue(and thereby completely ignore 99% of the questions I've asked and statements I've made), I won't take part in this discussion.

Perhaps Fr. Dionysi should speak for himself?

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