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by Carthaginian
Sat 26 November 2005 8:34 pm
Forum: Heterodox Groupings / Debate
Topic: THE "MP" - THE WHORE UPON MANY WATERS
Replies: 34
Views: 14105

Re: Canonically speaking

Canonically speaking, a bishop who got his seat thanks to the political power should be deposed. So are they real bishops? I doubt it and I do not know. To say that a hierarch should be deposed is quite a different matter from saying that he, along with the entire flock of people under him, is ...
by Carthaginian
Sat 26 November 2005 8:23 pm
Forum: Heterodox Groupings / Debate
Topic: THE "MP" - THE WHORE UPON MANY WATERS
Replies: 34
Views: 14105

Simony, the purchasing of the Holy Spirit is the chief heresy and begining of them all according to the Fathers. Simony is not a heresy; it is a sin. It is no more a heresy than theft or malicious thoughts are. As Caesar controls the mint, it seems that Priest Siloan's words "You surely heard speak ...
by Carthaginian
Fri 25 November 2005 2:17 pm
Forum: Heterodox Groupings / Debate
Topic: THE "MP" - THE WHORE UPON MANY WATERS
Replies: 34
Views: 14105

The concept of "validity" is Latin (RCC) I would prefer to use the term "Correctly" is more "correct" for the Orthodoxy, Whether "valid" or "correct", the authority and grace of a bishop/priest is not dependent on his personal character. He will answer to God, not men, for that. and in the case of ...
by Carthaginian
Fri 25 November 2005 2:12 pm
Forum: Heterodox Groupings / Debate
Topic: THE "MP" - THE WHORE UPON MANY WATERS
Replies: 34
Views: 14105

Priest Siluan wrote:

I think that you should read more about the question of the MP.

Try me. My statement was made because I find that the accusers of the MP tend to be fond of generalities, and, in my view anyway, their arguments evaporate when they are forced to talk specifics.

by Carthaginian
Thu 24 November 2005 1:10 pm
Forum: Heterodox Groupings / Debate
Topic: THE "MP" - THE WHORE UPON MANY WATERS
Replies: 34
Views: 14105

I am most certain you can justify that by the Holy Fathers writings in one of the Cannons I am sure, but until that time, you may want to re-acquaint yourself (as we all should) with the basic tenants of what being Orthodox is all about. Take out the "Russian" if that is what you where born as or ...
by Carthaginian
Thu 24 November 2005 12:59 pm
Forum: Book and Media Reviews
Topic: Woman and the Salvation of the World
Replies: 1
Views: 1947

I've read part of it, and intend to read the whole thing in the not so distant future. My general impression is that Evdokimov is a little too inclined to conform to secular thought, and that he can be a little presumptuous at times in his approach to the Fathers. However, these negative aspects, on ...
by Carthaginian
Tue 22 November 2005 1:16 pm
Forum: Heterodox Groupings / Debate
Topic: Roman Catholic Orthodox Dialogue even possible?
Replies: 31
Views: 9742

I don't have a lot of faith in the potential of "dialogues" with either the RC's or Orientals. In both cases there is a non-negotiable basis for any real discussion (rejection of papal infallibility by the RC's and acceptance of the last 4 councils by the Orientals). Seeing as I don't see either ...