What to do about Islamic Expansion in US?

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George Australia wrote:

Do you? How old were the Blessed Joseph and the Theotokos when they were betrothed?

So they were just a typical couple?

If you're going to compare Biblical examples from millenias ago, how many wives did Solomon have?

Name one argument in favour of your opinion from the New Testament.

Where does it say interracial marriage should be encouraged? I've given my reasoning. I'm tired of repeating myself.

Do you not then accept the Synodal Proclamation of the Church which I've quoted three times now?

All that proclamation says is that canonical law doesn't ban interracial marriage. But there can be other reasons to oppose it. Numerous of which I have already given.

I think I've explained my point brendan, and to go on would be just repeating and you have shown me your true colors (or should I say 'color'?) when you stated your belief that "The white Christian world is in danger", because you see, brendan, Christianity is not "white"

My "true colors?" I think I have been very explicit in my views.

Does canon law say that a 90 year-old man cannot marry a 18 year-old girl? No it doesn't, but would anyone recommend it? The same goes for interracial marriage.

I never said that only white people can be Christians or that all Christians are white.

Again, my point is that as one of God's creations, white people have as much right as any other race/ethnicity to preserve themselves, their heritage, and not submit to conditions which dangerous to their survival. Do you oppose that or do you think white people are under some moral obligation to become extinct and to be displaced from their countries?

But to return to the original thread topic after this very long digression, that obviously includes keeping Muslims out of the predominantly-Christian US.

brendan

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George Australia wrote:

As a parting gift, here is a photo of some newly baptised Orthodox Christians.
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Here's a comment pertaining to this topic from a priest who I believe is now with the ROCOR in California:

“One of the most valuable sociological attributes of traditional Christianity since its founding two thousand years ago has been its recognition that human being are not equal. Christianity, it is quite true, holds that all men are equal when standing before the throne of God at the Last Judgement. But apart from that, the doctrine that all human beings are, or should be, equal in a worldly sense appears nowhere in Christian teaching. That human beings are intellectually equal, or that such differences as do exist in individuals or groups are rooted, for example, in economic deprivation, would have been preposterous notions to most traditional Christian thinkers and teachers of past ages. That all cultures or peoples of the world are equally suitable as bearers of high Christian civilization would have been a laughable proposition to these men.” – Towards Renewal and Renaissance, Fr. James Thornton.

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Juvenaly Martinka wrote:

Dear GeorgeA,

Great picture! Where was that taken?

In Akkra, Ghana.

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That all cultures or peoples of the world are equally suitable as bearers of high Christian civilization would have been a laughable proposition to these men.” – Towards Renewal and Renaissance, Fr. James Thornton.

What is Christian civilization but a reflection of the working of the Holy Spirit in people? The above quote seems to imply that there are "peoples" who are spiritually defective, in that they cannot receive fully the Holy Spirit to the same degree as another "people." Are not all people equal in their opportunity to become saints or to live as decent simple Christians? Or does their blood make them spiritually inferior?

Fr. James Thornton seems to confuse the divinely mandated differences with national programs of racial separation, and exposits a xenophobia via the elevation of white European culture.

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Again, my point is that as one of God's creations, white people have as much right as any other race/ethnicity to preserve themselves, their heritage, and not submit to conditions which dangerous to their survival. Do you oppose that or do you think white people are under some moral obligation to become extinct and to be displaced from their countries?

With this single paragraph, you have shown yourself to be akin to the likes of Tom Metzger and his White Aryan Resistance group and all the other white separatists who sully our shores and give a bad name to Americans and to Christians.

Having ethnic ties is one thing, but to say that I have more of a connection to a Spaniard as opposed to an Ethiopian simply because the Spaniard and myself are "white" and the Ethiopian is "black" is ludicrous.

You, sir, are simply a poor excuse for a racist who hides under the monicker of a "racialist". I'm sure you have the Turner Diaries somewhere in your house as well as any number of books by George Lincoln Rockwell. I wouldn't be surprised if you have a cross-stitch wall hanging of the infamous 14 Words.

A rose under any other name...but the things you spout are surely smell quite different than a rose.

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Schultz wrote:

You, sir, are simply a poor excuse for a racist who hides under the monicker of a "racialist".

I never used that term. But I guess your use of scare quotes make it seem ominous. LOL!

I'm sure you have the Turner Diaries somewhere in your house as well as any number of books by George Lincoln Rockwell. I wouldn't be surprised if you have a cross-stitch wall hanging of the infamous 14 Words.

You are "sure", huh? I have news for you: I possess no books by either George Rockwell or Mr. Turner. Neither do I have the "infamous 14 Words" hanging on my wall or anywhere. I am simply a person who believes European-Americans should have the same rights as any other group and are no moral obligation to be dispossessed from their countries. If you believe otherwise, then that only makes you an anti-white racist.

There is nothing in traditional Christian teaching - Orthodox or otherwise, that conflicts with anything I've said. You obviously have me confused with some stereotype of a racist boogeyman that exists in your mind.

brendan

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Ephraem wrote:

Fr. James Thornton seems to confuse the divinely mandated differences with national programs of racial separation, and exposits a xenophobia via the elevation of white European culture.

Maybe I should have just provided a link to the entire article:

Towards Renewal and Renaissance
by Fr. James Thornton
http://www.commonsenseclub.com/pages/96August.pdf

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