Cyprian Was Wrong on Rebaptism

Starman · Post by **Starman** » Mon 7 April 2008 1:58 pm

The email at this link is invalid

http://www.geocities.com/trvalentine/or ... ml#guettee

joasia · Post by **joasia** » Mon 7 April 2008 8:39 pm

The email? The link is valid though.

Starman · Post by **Starman** » Fri 11 April 2008 4:43 pm

Yes, the website is valid, but the email is not. I find that about 80% of Orthodox emails are never valid. They seem as flaky as pentecostals.

Which is the true Orthodox Church? There is a smorgasborg to select from today lol:

lol-M, lol-R, lol-A, lol-Y, lol-Q, lol-G, lol-V, etc, etc.

In six months it will be:

lol-M (a), lol-M (b), lol-R (.1), lol-R (.2), lol-A (a), lol-A (b), etc, etc.

Of course none of them have grace, except all of them.

Starman · Post by **Starman** » Fri 11 April 2008 4:52 pm

Imagine today a new jurisdiction is formed called LOL-A (laughing out loud, Agafangel). In six months it is LOL-A (1), LOL- B (2), LOL- C (3), LOL-D (4).

In a year they all go with the MP, with the exception of LOL-D (4). By going with the MP, the former admit they were mistaken

In a year and six months, LOL-D (4) is divided into the following:

LOL-D (4-A), LOL-D (4-R), LOL-D (4-J), LOL-D (4-I), LOL-D (4-X).

All are defrocked by each other and only one is the one true Church of Christ commissioned to teach the nations. Riiiiight!

One does not have to be a professor of patristics, dogmatic history and canon law to find the true Church of Christ today. The Church has always been there plain and visible for everyone to see.

Starman · Post by **Starman** » Fri 11 April 2008 5:01 pm

How is the average (non-patristic and canonical scholar) today, supposed to sift through all this nonsense to find the true Church today? This is not what Christ gave the world. This is all the work of men, who have nothing better to do then destroy everything they touch due to pride, disobedience and megalomania.

joasia · Post by **joasia** » Fri 11 April 2008 10:27 pm

How is the average (non-patristic and canonical scholar) today, supposed to sift through all this nonsense to find the true Church today?

With his heart. How do you think I got here? By going to an Orthodox Theological School?

If you analyze with your mind(which is saturated with the world view), then you will not be able to see beyond the horizon.

Read the holy fathers from the heart. Forget about the jurisdictions. Read the writings of holy fathers and let it saturate your soul.

You are trying to understand something that is beyond your capacity. Realize that and focus on what you need to do for your faith in Orthodoxy. Then you will grow in understanding about these other issues. Work on saving your soul first and then you will understand how God works in the world.

Starman · Post by **Starman** » Sat 12 April 2008 12:13 am

The Orthodox Christian works on saving his soul within the communion of the Orthodox Church. But the question remains: "where is the Orthodox Church"?

Protestants don't need a Church because they are already [past tense] "saved." But theosis for the Orthodox is a communal experience provided through the sacraments in the local parish.

You tell me to work on saving my soul. But that statements begs the question: "in what church"? What jurisdiction?