THE RUSSIAN IS THE SERB’S FRIEND FOREVER?

[Priest Siluan]

Tryphon:

What is your jurisdiction? Under what Bishop are you?

Thanks.

[Tryphon]

Also Father Philaretos baptized Bp. Akakije and the other two Serbian Athonite monks who left the Serbian Patriarchate, because (Serbian Patriarchate "baptizes" in the "sprinkling style") so, the then Monk Akakije and his fellow understood they should be baptized correctly. So, It is the beginning of the restoration of true Serbian Orthodoxy.

Actually the Blessedly reposed Abbot Euthemios received them as is with a confession of faith,it was only later that they requested to be Canonically Baptized. That's why Akakios went to Serbia,to Baptize His family and relatives since they had No clue of what was Orthodoxy and they didn"t teach Him. Correction Batushka there is a GREAT number of Clerics in Serbia who Pour/or sprinkle but there also is and always will be Spiritual Fathers Who are obedient to our Master Christ. One such was the Blessedly reposed Archimandrite Thaddeus who was a spiritual child of Metropolitan Anthony and Schema-Archimandrite Ambrose of the original ROCOR when it was formed in Serbia. Why didn't Akakios visit and absorb the life giving waters flowing from this wonderful Man? Sadly because His self-appointed mission was to be a leader and Bishop at whatever cost even the souls of those following Him into schism.

[Priest Siluan]

Plus the obedience issue has nothing to do with Bp Artemije or any of the official Serbian Patriarchate. Bp Akakije hasn't been in obedience to them since he left Serbia for Mount Athos and joined the Zealots there. He was under de facto obedience to the GOC of Greece, but the question is whether he had the right to appeal to the RTOC on the grounds that Serbia technically remained an autocephalous jurisdiction.

Checking this years 2011 pocket calendar of the GOC on page 114,#12 whose name do we have as a Cleric belonging to the GOC?
My point is that since the temporary administration of the GOC hindered Akakios and that Serbs wouldn't want to be under a "Greek" Bishop,and the LOVE for His people burned within Him why not open a dialogue or show Open support to Bp Artemije?
Since when is it Canonical for a Young Hieromonk to live with young Nuns in a secluded dwelling? Akakios abandoned the missionary activities for which He was ordained. Years ago He took money from newly ordained Fr Joseph which was given to Him to buy land for a monastic dwelling and Akakios turns around and buys a jeep. When Fr Joseph left for Greece, it was repeated that He left without a blessing ? From Who was one needed? From ones lawful Bishop of course,which was granted. The Serbian communities have covered a whole lot of unsavory actions by this Akakian clique but now slowly things are coming to light.

It is very interesting, what some true Orthodox people do. When someone leaves some TOC synod, they begin to vent all "filth" and "crimes" of that one who was with them before. So, if they knew all these things, why were they silent? Thus, if these things are true, then they are accomplices, and if they are not true, then they lie.

[Priest Siluan]

Also Father Philaretos baptized Bp. Akakije and the other two Serbian Athonite monks who left the Serbian Patriarchate, because (Serbian Patriarchate "baptizes" in the "sprinkling style") so, the then Monk Akakije and his fellow understood they should be baptized correctly. So, It is the beginning of the restoration of true Serbian Orthodoxy.

Actually the Blessedly reposed Abbot Euthemios received them as is with a confession of faith,it was only later that they requested to be Canonically Baptized. That's why Akakios went to Serbia,to Baptize His family and relatives since they had No clue of what was Orthodoxy and they didn"t teach Him. Correction Batushka there is a GREAT number of Clerics in Serbia who Pour/or sprinkle but there also is and always will be Spiritual Fathers Who are obedient to our Master Christ. One such was the Blessedly reposed Archimandrite Thaddeus who was a spiritual child of Metropolitan Anthony and Schema-Archimandrite Ambrose of the original ROCOR when it was formed in Serbia. Why didn't Akakios visit and absorb the life giving waters flowing from this wonderful Man? Sadly because His self-appointed mission was to be a leader and Bishop at whatever cost even the souls of those following Him into schism.

Thank you. Were Elders Thaddeus and Ambrose under ROCOR or under the Serbian Patriarchate?

[Tryphon]

Also Father Philaretos baptized Bp. Akakije and the other two Serbian Athonite monks who left the Serbian Patriarchate, because (Serbian Patriarchate "baptizes" in the "sprinkling style") so, the then Monk Akakije and his fellow understood they should be baptized correctly. So, It is the beginning of the restoration of true Serbian Orthodoxy.

Actually the Blessedly reposed Abbot Euthemios received them as is with a confession of faith,it was only later that they requested to be Canonically Baptized. That's why Akakios went to Serbia,to Baptize His family and relatives since they had No clue of what was Orthodoxy and they didn"t teach Him. Correction Batushka there is a GREAT number of Clerics in Serbia who Pour/or sprinkle but there also is and always will be Spiritual Fathers Who are obedient to our Master Christ. One such was the Blessedly reposed Archimandrite Thaddeus who was a spiritual child of Metropolitan Anthony and Schema-Archimandrite Ambrose of the original ROCOR when it was formed in Serbia. Why didn't Akakios visit and absorb the life giving waters flowing from this wonderful Man? Sadly because His self-appointed mission was to be a leader and Bishop at whatever cost even the souls of those following Him into schism.

Thank you. Were Elders Thaddeus and Ambrose under ROCOR or under the Serbian Patriarchate?

Schema-Archimandrite Ambrose was the Abbot of the Historic Milkovo monastery (after ArchBishop St Theophan of Poltava left) in Serbia where the Valaam brotherhood gathered. Milkovo produced some of the greatest ROCOR Bishops; Saint John of S.F,ArchBishop Tikon of SF, 2 Schema-ArchBishops Anthonys one in SF and the other in LA. Elder Thaddeus was brought up in this Holy environment. Many Thousands gathered around the Holy Elder Thaddeus in Serbia. He was persecuted in Serbia by the powers that be and ended His life living with a lay-family. He openly said that over 2,000 Agents had infiltrated the Serbian Church in the form of Clerics and Monastics. There were other Holy Men and Women and there still are but NONE of them support the Akakios-Efrosinia clique. Many have a great Love for the GOC but truth be told,no one has done more damage to the GOC movement in Serbia than those two. A great Ecummenist Bishop in Serbia when asked about the GOC in Serbia and if it worried him responded "We gave them Akakios and Efrosinia" we're not worried about the GOC! Saddly these words are now coming to fruitation.

[Priest Siluan]

Thank you, Tryphon, for this information.

[Suaidan]

Yes, of course, Bp. Artemije is not a true Orthodox, he has a "Kyprianite" ecclesiology.

This is secondary to the fact that he was a Bishop of the State Church who has not, to my knowledge, repented to anyone in the True Church, 30 years after the Patriarchate of Serbia was anathematized, as was Diomid of Chukotka.

I don't think the SiR people are outside the Church.