RTOC to glorify Br. Jose and Abp. Averky of Jordanville

Incognito1583 · Post by **Incognito1583** » Tue 22 July 2008 11:03 pm

joasia wrote:
Who is he? I've never heard of him. And why is he holy? What did he do?

Do you see how your attitude is the reflection of your hatred? And you say we're cold?

My attitude? I just asked a question. Who is this Jose? lol

I wonder how many people here have heard of Saint Guthlac of England. He lived before the schism of 1054.

Incognito1583 · Post by **Incognito1583** » Tue 22 July 2008 11:30 pm

Ok, I read about Brother Jose here [ http://www.roca.org/OA/149/149c.htm ].

He was murdered. But I see no evidence he was a saint or blessed one. He had no miracles, was not clairvoyant, and did not die specifically for the faith, as far as I can tell. So he wasn't a martyr. I think churches today are too quick to canonize people. True, I don't have all the facts about Brother Jose, and I stand corrected and apologize if I have misrepresented him in anyway.

Jean-Serge · Post by **Jean-Serge** » Wed 23 July 2008 1:30 am

Actually, he was killed by satanists...

προσκυνητής · Wed 23 July 2008 10:28 am

Actually, he was killed by satanists...

That was not the conclusion of the Greek police as reported in the Greek media.

Jean-Serge · Post by **Jean-Serge** » Wed 23 July 2008 10:59 am

Which was this conclusion?

προσκυνητής · Wed 23 July 2008 1:27 pm

I will not say, since I do not have the texts available to cite. Let's just let the man rest in peace.

Incognito1583 · Post by **Incognito1583** » Wed 23 July 2008 7:32 pm

On what basis do they conclude he was Blessed? Just because someone is murdered, does not make them a saint.