Help HOLY TRINITY ORTHODOX CHURCH in Oxnard

[Benjamin W. C. Waterhouse]

The jurisdictional BS of this website is starting to really miff me off. People are in need of help and we sit here in judgment over them? Disgusting. Have we totally forgotten mercy and love? (Rhetorical question, apparently we have.) Have we forgotten that Christ came to save sinners, and that none is witout sin? (Again rhetorical, the answer is yes.)

I am on my last nerve with this forum.

Indeed

Donatism raises it's ugly head again...

"When Pilate saw that he could prevail nothing, but that rather a tumult was made, he took water, and washed his hands before the multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person: see ye to it."

In Him
SB

[Benjamin W. C. Waterhouse]

No offense intended, but in my view Alexander Mileant of sorrowful memory was never a bishop of the Catholic Church of Christ.

He was consecrated by bishops in heresy, and the fruit of that unlawful consecration manifested itself in his blasphemous and cacodox confession of the heresy of Evolution.

I'm not aware of what a supposed bishop of Buenos Aires and South America has to do with the parish in Oxnard, CA, but perhaps the connection would explain the lack of discernment in this parish, with regards to why they sought refuge with the Kyprianites.

Clearly something is gravely amiss down there in Oxnard, and I wouldn't send them one cent until they can at least muster a basic Orthodox confession, and find a truly Orthodox shepherd to lead them.

Cyprian

And who made you Pope?

In Him
SB

[GOCTheophan]

The jurisdictional BS of this website is starting to really miff me off. People are in need of help and we sit here in judgment over them? Disgusting. Have we totally forgotten mercy and love? (Rhetorical question, apparently we have.) Have we forgotten that Christ came to save sinners, and that none is witout sin? (Again rhetorical, the answer is yes.)

I am on my last nerve with this forum.

Dear Juvenaly,

If they were hungry and needed food or homeless and needed shelter we would of course have a duty to help them. Do you ask beggars whether they are Orthodox or not before you give alms? Of course not. That is not the question here- they are not asking for food or shelter or clothing.

These people are not Orthodox falling as they do under the Anathema of 1983. They are schismatics from the GOC with a capital "S". Their priest is a white supremcist. They are asking for money in order to be able to propagate their heresies and maintain their schism in existence.

Therefore Cyprian is correct in what he writes.

Theophan.

[Benjamin W. C. Waterhouse]

The jurisdictional BS of this website is starting to really miff me off. People are in need of help and we sit here in judgment over them? Disgusting. Have we totally forgotten mercy and love? (Rhetorical question, apparently we have.) Have we forgotten that Christ came to save sinners, and that none is witout sin? (Again rhetorical, the answer is yes.)

I am on my last nerve with this forum.

Dear Juvenaly,

If they were hungry and needed food or homeless and needed shelter we would of course have a duty to help them. Do you ask beggars whether they are Orthodox or not before you give alms? Of course not. That is not the question here- they are not asking for food or shelter or clothing.

These people are not Orthodox falling as they do under the Anathema of 1983. They are schismatics from the GOC with a capital "S". Their priest is a white supremcist. They are asking for money in order to be able to propagate their heresies and maintain their schism in existence.

Therefore Cyprian is correct in what he writes.

Theophan.

Dear Theophan

Two things

1. They do not fall "under their own anathama" a western scholastic legalistic foolishness (no light switches here!)

2. What is this white supremacist thing? I hope not another whispering hearsay rumour initiated by the Papal Reader. As always - where is the evidence ?(eg see the Fili "masonic" money rumours, for which no evidence was given by dear deluded Cyprian)

In Him
SB

[GOCTheophan]

Two things

1. They do not fall "under their own anathama" a western scholastic legalistic foolishness (no light switches here!)

2. What is this white supremacist thing? I hope not another whispering hearsay rumour initiated by the Papal Reader. As always - where is the evidence ?(eg see the Fili "masonic" money rumours, for which no evidence was given by dear deluded Cyprian)

In Him
SB

Dear Benjamin.

1. I take it you realise that Met Kallistos who was justly defrocked by the Synod of Archbishop Andreas ( the "Matthewites") for his Iconomachy and refusal to acknowledge the Sainthood of Augustine of Hippo and wrongly accepted by Archbishop Auxentios who paid the price for that acceptence when Met Kallistos went into schism from him from which schism comes the Synod in Resistance was the one who came up with the Light Switch analogy? So there are definitely "Light Switches" in the closet, so you cannot say there are none here. Cyprian has clearly demonstrated how the 1983 Anathema aganist Ecumenism goes totally aganist Met Kyprian's ecclesiolgy.

2. Do you believe that HOCNA is in the Church? Is ROAC? Is RTOC? Why isnt a Ecumenical council needed for those schismatics (I am not sure that ROAC is schismatic) but is needed for the New Calendarists who have gone from schism into actual heresy?

3. Google Fr James Thornton.

4. Who is the Papal Reader?

If you mean Vladimir he believes that the Cyprianites are within the Church and is friends with Bishop Ambrose. It was from a Hieromonk in Greece who is not with the GOC-CII that I heard about that belief though someone else had hinted at it before. It is odd that the smallest OC group in Greece has the most money to throw around the place. It is funny also that they dont suffer any persecuation from the Freemasonic influenced Greek state.

Theophan.

[Christophoros]

Fr. James Thornton is not a racist. He does hold very conservative political views and anti-immigration views (and has for many years), has been active in the anti-communist right-wing organization, The John Birch Society. Of course, left-wing godless atheists love to accuse such people of racism, but I would hope Orthodox Christians would refrain from such inaccurate and vitriolic labels.

[GOCTheophan]

Fr. James Thornton is not a racist..

http://www.amren.com/ar/1996/08/index.html

Let people decide for themselves.

Theophan.