Why Traditionalist Orthodox MUST split from World Orthodoxy!

PFC Nektarios · Post by **PFC Nektarios** » Thu 15 April 2004 3:38 am

Thanks for putting the words in my mouth. I didnt mean that its all about image. I know that Ecumenism is a bad thing, but the "world" Orthodox Churches have not done any thing yet to be declared heretical churches.
Even the change in calender was not a dogmatic or theological change.
Breaking and going into Schism is worse then what we are talking about.

Yes I have been Orthodox for 2 whole days. Now Three. There are Catechumens who could run circles around you when it comes to knowledge and understanding of Orthodoxy theology. So dont try to sound so High and mighty.

In Christ
Nektarios

"All of you who have not sinned cast the first stone"

尼古拉前执事 · Post by **尼古拉前执事** » Thu 15 April 2004 9:33 am

OrthodoxLearner wrote:
I know that Ecumenism is a bad thing, but the "world" Orthodox Churches have not done any thing yet to be declared heretical churches.

I would say union with the heterodox would count. Ecumenism is an anathematized heresy. Union with Monophysites, etc cannot just be called a mistake that we can overlook.

OrthodoxyOrDeath · Post by **OrthodoxyOrDeath** » Thu 15 April 2004 11:14 am

Nektarios,

Who is in schism, the one in communion with a host of heretics (ie. Bartholomew, Monophysties, Latins) or the one refusing to be?

Simple question really.

PFC Nektarios · Post by **PFC Nektarios** » Thu 15 April 2004 3:07 pm

Even thought I am totaly against ecumenism, I was not aware that "World Orthodox" Churches were in Full Communion with the Monophysites and with The Roman Catholics. If thats the case how come I havnt seen a actually con-celebration between the Pope and a Orthodox Patriarch? Not thouse pictures on the ROAC website where the EP did the liturgy of the word with the Latins. That was realy wrong i would like to add.

I remember reading a quote by a saint who was talking about Schismatics. It wanst a good opinion.

PFC Nektarios · Post by **PFC Nektarios** » Thu 15 April 2004 3:08 pm

When some one can actually prove that the "mainstream" Orthodoxy is in FULL Communion with Heretics. then I will answer your question OOD.

OrthodoxyOrDeath · Post by **OrthodoxyOrDeath** » Thu 15 April 2004 6:13 pm

Nektarios,

"Full Communion" is, as far as I can tell, Latin terminolgy - as if there can be a "partial communion".

Would you not consider the acceptance of any heretic "mystery" as being real a state of "communion" (of "Grace")?

PFC Nektarios · Post by **PFC Nektarios** » Fri 16 April 2004 3:28 pm

I wouldnt consider the recognition of heretic "mysteries" full communion, I would call it a serious error. Taking part and participateing in the worthless heretic "mysteries" I would say is complete apostasy and heretical.

What do you think about the Jerusalem and Serbian Patriarchate?

In Christ
Nektarios