In Defense of evolution, Papism and the EP by Papoutsis1

[Evfimy]

Pap, do you really believe that article? Quoting from atheist websites doesn't prove anything. Read the book yourself. Think for yourself. Read that book. I didn't post it here for my health.

[Evfimy]

'THE DAWKINS DELUSION,' by Alister Mcgrath (Ph.D in molecular biology from Oxford) refutes the lies of Dawkins. I suggest you read it.

These organizations specialize in refuting the lie of evolution.

Discovery Institute Center for Science & Culture

Science Excellence for All Ohioans (SEAO)

International Society for Complexity, Information and Design (ISCID)

Intelligent Design and Evolution Awareness (IDEA) Club

Intelligent Design Undergraduate Research Center

Access Research Network on Origins and Design

Academic Freedom Foundation

'Icons of Evolution' - Why Much of What we Teach about Evolution is Wrong. A new book by Jonathan Wells, a molecular and cell biologist, with illustrations by Jody Sjogren, M.S., CMI (Certified Medical Illustrator).

The Institute for Creation Research

Harun YahYa - An Islamic Intelligent Design Site

Creation Digest

Other Sites of Interest

Leadership University

Errant Skeptics Research Institute

Reasons to Believe

[Papoutsis1]

Many Theistic, Atheistic and Agnostic Evolutionist ascribe to to the findings of that article as the underlying science does not lie. I have known of the "Polonium Halos" probably longer than you. I probably even know more about Creationism than you do as I was a teenager in the deep south at the time creationism took off.

All I can tell you in the most loving way possible is that the Bible is not a science book, Evolution does not destroy our faith and the science for creationism is simply bad.

You want to attack the man for being an atheist without taking into account the sicentific data that he has put forward is wrong and disengenous to true critical thinking.

So, I am thinking for myself, I looked into the Polonium Halos honestly to see if there is any merit and there was none. Just because I agree with the man's findings does not mean I don't think for myself, but to make the Bible into a science book and trying to fit a square peg into a round hole is just wrong.

I'm truly sorry.

God Bless

Peter

[Evfimy]

I don't really have the time to contribute much energy into this thread, but I want to say that evolution is a lie promulgated by Jews, Freemasons and atheists. There is no truth to it at all. It is an agenda created to pontificate a naturalistic worldview as opposed to a theistic/supernatural one.

The best resources on a young Earth – by high-to-low priority – are as follow:

The Genesis Flood -- This is the book which many recognize as having started the modern revival of creationism and catastrophism. Although it has gone through over 32 printings, it is still the most definitive treatment of the Biblical and scientific evidences of the global flood in the days of Noah.

Scientific Creationism - 2nd Ed. - This is the most widely used text and reference book on the scientific case for creation. The comprehensive, yet easily understood, scientific material in the first seven chapters are supplemented by a final chapter which expounds, in depth, the Biblical teachings on creation.

Many Infallible Proofs – Many have said that this book is the most comprehensive – yet warm and evangelistic – presentation of the practical evidences of the infallibility of the Bible and the truth of Christianity available anywhere. Widely used as a textbook and reference work, yet especially suitable for inspirational reading.

Many Infallible Proofs Study Guide – This new companion study guide is designed to provide readers with a deeper understanding of these evidences. The study guide may be used for individual study or as a text for any type of group study - the classroom, youth groups, Sunday school, Bible studies, retreats, camps, etc. E

The Modern Creation Trilogy – The definitive work on the study of origins from the creationist’s perspective. The Modern Creation Trilogy examines evidences for both evolution and special creation this three-volume gift set as a “must have” for those who believe the Bible is God’s plain-spoken word. An enclosed CD contains all words from each volume. Excellent for Bible studies, reports, and lesson plans.

A Question of Origins (DVD) – Visually rich, this overview reveals the scientific accuracy of the Bible while examining the creation/evolution controversy. The DVD includes eight languages, English, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, Russian, Polish, Serbian, and Slovakian. Also included on the DVD: "The Good Test" a convicting and powerful gospel presentation. 61 minutes. Released 2004. [NOTE: ICR used this video for all of their seminars for two years. It presents a great overview of creation and evolution, and teaches basic information on five areas of science: origins of the universe; origins of life; fossil record, human development; creation and evolution models.]

The World That Perished – Of all the Bible's accounts, Noah's Ark and the Flood has been the most difficult for some modern people to accept. This book effectively presents the scientific, cultural and biblical evidence supporting this planet-changing catastrophe. Geologic evidence is shown from around the world. Many intriguing questions are answered. Thousands have reported stronger faith in the Bible after reading this book. Large numbers have been won to Christ. Striking similarities between the sins of the pre-Flood world and those of our day are noted.

*R.A.T.E. Products:

RATE - Radioisotopes and the Age of the Earth - The RATE book is a definitive resource on radioactive dating for every scientist's library, whether evolutionist or creationist. It examines radioisotope theory, exposes its plaguing problems, and offers a better alternative.

Radioisotopes and the Age of the Earth Vol. I & II – The RATE book is a definitive resource on radioactive dating for every scientist's library, whether evolutionist or creationist. It examines radioisotope theory, exposes its plaguing problems, and offers a better alternative. The age of the earth is an important issue in Christianity today. If the 6 day Genesis account is fallacious, then how can the rest of Scripture be relied upon?

Radioisotopes and the Age of the Earth: Results of a Young-Earth Creationist Research Initiative addresses the issues raised by the first RATE technical book in 2000. The RATE team dared to ask tough questions and has discovered that radioactive dating methods and their results are not thorough, consistent or reliable. One of the “pillars‿ of old-earth evolution really supports the Scriptural account of “in the beginning.

Extra: (from ICR.org)

Information on Earth:

The Earth: Unique in All the Universe (#144)

The Search for New Planets (#315)

Mt. St. Helens and Catastrophism

Rapid Erosion at Mount St. Helens

Ten Misconceptions about the Geologic Column (excellent)

Interpreting Earth History

The Young Faint Sun Paradox and the Age of the Solar System

General overview page on the above topics

Plate Tectonic articles: Plate Tectonic articles:

Computer Modeling of the Large-Scale Tectonics Associated With the Genesis Flood (with illustrations)

Catastrophic Plate Tectonics: The Physics behind the Genesis Flood

Catastrophic Plate Tectonics: A Global Flood Model of Earth History

Continental Drift, Plate Tectonics, and the Bible

Studies in Creationism and Flood Geology

Interpreting Earth History

The Sands of Time: A Biblical Model of Deep Sea-Floor Sedimentation

Earth and Flood:

Was the Flood global?

Jesus and the Flood

The Global Flood of Noah's Day

Geology and the Flood

ICR Articles related to Noah’s Flood

Noah’s Flood covered the whole earth

Does Scripture Require a Global Flood?

Genesis According to the Miao People (#214)

The Flood of Noah & the Flood of Gilgamesh

Noah’s Flood and the Gilgamesh Epic and other articles about Gilgamesh.

Why Does Nearly Every Culture Have a Tradition of a Global Flood? (#153)

Legends of the Flood.

Were Grand Canyon Limestones Deposited by Calm and Placid Seas?

How Long does it Take for a Canyon to Form?

Polystrate (“many layered”) trees

Studies in Creationism and Flood Geology

Did Noah's Flood Cover the Himalayan Mountains?

Answers in Genesis Noah’s Flood Questions and Answers

Answers in Genesis articles about the flood

[Papoutsis1]

I don't really have the time to contribute much energy into this thread, but I want to say that evolution is a lie promulgated by Jews

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Yeah, thanks for putting a nice anti-semetic face on Orthodoxy.

Peter

[jckstraw72]

evolution is a wicked heresy aimed at destroying Christianity. it makes God out to be the author of death, and thus, ultimately, our enemy.

[Lenexa]

Papoutsis1
I am sorry for judging! I am not worthy as I am not God and not even a good Christian.
I will say that I am in agreement with Evfimy on Evolution though I am not as erudite on the science in support of Creationism.
I believe in Creationism largely due to reading Fr.Seraphim Rose's book "Genesis, Creation and Early Man" which convinced me that what is of primary importance is to attain to a Patristic Mindset that has been cleansed by Theoria.
None of the Fathers believed in or ever wrote in any way that can be construed as being compatible with Evolution. I am sure you will have good oft-repeated rebuttals to this comment, "The Fathers lived hundreds and even thousands of years ago," etc. but read this book and understand it and then you will understand why I believe what I do and I am willing to bet why Evfimy believes what he does and then maybe it will not seem so silly.
I have the utmost respect for you though I am very much in disagreement with you.
In Christ
Eucherius