Archbishop Of Canterbury Has Only Met God In RO CHURCH

[Ebor]

Christ expelled the money changers and NEVER compromised Truth--He even questioned, "What part hath God with belial?" I've more than grounded my position as it seems you quietly avoid it. The terms I use fit ever so painfully. I've met plenty of Anglicans--the sincere ones just keep on becoming Orthodox... And it's a matter of hating sin (lies) not the sinner (the heretic)...That's true love according to St. Paul.
r

And you are of the same level of Holiness as Our Lord? Or even that of St. Paul? Jesus did not blast and denigrate and abuse the Samaritans or the Romans or anyone else who was "other". Just what is your "position" in your own words not some dump of others writings? Can you state it without namecalling and put-downs?

You have avoided any idea that you did not understand what The Archbishop meant or that you conveniently left off the second case at the Baptist service.

If the way you post is your idea of "loving" one whom you perceive to be a "sinner" I wonder how you would treat those whom you do not "love".

"Thou Shalt Love your neighbor as thyself." Do you treat your own self this badly? Why are you so angry and dismissive of others?

"Who is my neighbor?" Not just those who agree with us.

Ebor

[Kollyvas]

My ideas are quite clear, just a repeat:

1. The prelate in question met God in the R O Church, but fails to mention meeting him in his own.
2. Vincentian Canon, 39 Articles, Easterness of Christianity, etc. have been put forward. ...
   Scripture quoted in denial of Truthby Anglicans, the way of the "church" of judas iscariot...
   nuff said.
   r

[Priest Siluan]

Dear friends:

please, moderate your words and your temperament

[AndyHolland]

Dear Ebor,

Glory to Jesus Christ,

It was not because I hated the Anglicans that I left them, it is because I love them. Sometimes the only way you can love someone is to let them go.

When God cursed the ground for Adam's sake, out of love he left the ground to Adam. Adam could only grow tares. If you judge for yourself, instead of allowing God to be judge - there are the consequences.
To pretend away Gravity does not make one fly. To legislate against rain does not make the sun shine. Man's choices have consequences, including and especially with respect to God's presence. Jesus taught us in the Gospels the wages of sin are death. Christ has no part with belial.

This is why God's curse of the ground is so gentle and loving. God left the ground to Adam so that Adam would see where his playing god would lead. And where God went, he beckoned Adam to come. So too, he beckons us to come to Him. Now its our turn to pick up our crosses and follow Him.

Wanton sin is not the cross he wishes us to carry. Jesus forgave sins to heal, He did not pretend them away. All the reasoned Anglicanism in the Universe cannot pretend away sins or sinfulness. Having so-called Bishops preaching bare-headed in Church things against Christ - such as Homosexuality and Abortion, these are not of God and people of God flee such as these. If local Bishops do not do the same, they are no defenders of the faith. What then is their faith? Unbridaled modern "liberalism"? And how liberal is it when it will not permit those whose conscience is violated by women and homosexual priests to refuse?

The most loving statement to the E.C. I could make was to search for Christ in the true faith. I cannot intellectually prove the E.O. is the true Church anymore than I can place a thorn in the mouth of the Leviathin. Much words cause annoyance.

However, there are miracles in Orthodoxy you will never find in the E.C. so long as she is on her present course. Your just going to have to trust me on this one, and come and see for yourself.

I have found the true faith, worshipping the undivided Trinity who has saved us. I always believed in One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church - and now I have found it.

Whether you choose to believe my witness or not,

andy - the pious twaddler

[Ebor]

You handled your situation by leaving. Others are trying to work it out and get things better by staying.

There is much more to the Anglican Communion then ECUSA as you know. Perhaps it would be best to just let this thread end now. One hopes without anymore mistakes or misrepresentations or lies about my Church or the Archbishop of Canterbury.

Ebor

[AndyHolland]

Dear Ebor,

Agreed except for one thing only. Your "My" church is the issue with regard to the fullness of truth. Forgive my pious twaddling but;

Our Father who art in Heaven,
Hallowed be thy name,
thy kingdom come thy will be done,
on Earth as it is in Heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread,
and forgive us our tresspasses
as we forgive those who tresspass against us
Lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from the evil one.

Orthodoxy is the fullness of truth found in the plural - not the singular One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church.

"Choose Life and Live" is a choice of plurality and communion. When people respect individualism more than communion a question arises as to whether they are lost. Holy Scripture teaches there can be no communion with Belial.

There comes a point when arguing is futile, and action is required not to condemn others, but to help them see they are condemning themselves.

Christ Jesus came into the Universe to save sinners of whom I am chief.

andy

[Ebor]

I'm sorry, I don't understand what you are trying to say re: individualism and such. You have chosen to become EO and joined that religious body. I am Anglican and am a member of that religious body.

We also say the "Our Father". It is the most basic Christian prayer, maybe. I don't see your point in quoting it. Are you claiming that only EO can say it?

I have seen both EO and RC claim that they are the "fullness" and such. I do not believe that, therefor I am neither.

I try to follow my Master, Jesus of Nazereth, as best I can. I fail to see where Belial comes into this or how you are showing someone else's condemnation of themselves.

Ebor