Thomas Deretich and Name-Worshipping

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Thomas_Deretich wrote: Thu 1 January 2026 6:02 pm

In short answer to sojourning_one, yes some/many Orthodox Jews write “G-d” out of reverence for God. Traditionally all Jews and all Christians had a special reverence for God’s name, in both meanings, created name and divine power. It is in the Ten Commandments not to treat His name with disrespect. The sarcasm about finger-worshipping above is the type of irreverence that is forbidden. Venerating God’s name is throughout Scripture, liturgy, saints’ writings, and saints’ lives. In short answer to Jean-Serge, there is a Theophany prayer worshiping the name of Jesus along with the Father and Spirit. So, the name of Jesus can mean the person of God the Son

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We'll definitely figure out GIF attaching next year

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Suaidan wrote: Tue 6 January 2026 1:31 pm

We'll definitely figure out GIF attaching next year

2026 or 2027? 😩

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Thomas_Deretich wrote: Thu 1 January 2026 6:02 pm

In short answer to sojourning_one, yes some/many Orthodox Jews write “G-d” out of reverence for God. Traditionally all Jews and all Christians had a special reverence for God’s name, in both meanings, created name and divine power. It is in the Ten Commandments not to treat His name with disrespect. The sarcasm about finger-worshipping above is the type of irreverence that is forbidden. Venerating God’s name is throughout Scripture, liturgy, saints’ writings, and saints’ lives. In short answer to Jean-Serge, there is a Theophany prayer worshiping the name of Jesus along with the Father and Spirit. So, the name of Jesus can mean the person of God the Son

Since you have access to the HOCNA documents, could you make public all publich statements made by HOCNA on the name-worshipping issue (either on the Internet or not) from the visit of Gregorie Lurie to HOCNA to nowadays so that we can see how the position evolved and/or was precised along years?

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Please see the HOCNA texts quoted above in this thread in my posting of April 1 2025, including in the message, and in the attached 50 page PDF document, and see the footnotes and URLs in that document for links to full documents. Go also to the “Name of God” section at HOMB.org and thewonderfulname.info

Jn: πάτερ ἅγιε, τήρησον αὐτοὺς ἐν τῷ ὀνόματί σου. CyrA: ἐν ὀνόματι τοῦ Πατρὸς … οἱονεὶ τὸ ἐν δόξῃ καὶ δυνάμει θεότητος…. Πατρός ἐνέργειαν. 1Clem: τῶν ἐν καθαρᾷ συνειδήσει λατρευόντων τῷ παναρέτῳ ὀνόματι αὐτοῦ…. τὸ ἀρχέγονον πάσης κτίσεως ὄνομά σου. HermSim: τὸ ὄνομα τοῦ Υἱοῦ τοῦ Θεοῦ μέγα ἐστὶ καὶ ἀχώρητον καὶ τὸν κόσμον ὅλον βαστάζει . GrP: ὅτε μίαν Θεότητά φαμεν, πάντα ὅσα ἐστὶν ὁ Θεός φαμεν, καὶ τὴν οὐσίαν καὶ τὴν ἐνέργειαν. GrP: ἑκάστη δύναμις ἢ ἐνέργεια αὐτός ἐστιν ὁ Θεός. GrP: τοῦ θείου ὀνόματος…. μόνῳ Θεῷ. MēnJan6: δοξάζηταί σου τὸ πανάγιον ὄνομα, σὺν τῷ Πατρί, καὶ τῷ Ἁγίῳ Πνεύματι. JnKr: Имя Божіе есть самъ Богъ. TikhM: Имя Его не считать за сущность Божию, не отделять от Бога, не почитать за особое Божество, не обожать букв и звуков и случайных мыслей о Боге

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links pls

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