About a Liberal nun in "ROCOR" - MP

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SavaBeljovic wrote: Fri 16 May 2025 9:13 pm

Being an Ecumenist heretic isn't enough to get censured in the ROCOR-MP these days... But recognizing the OCU is.

We're supposed to be shocked, shocked when one of theirs prays with Bartholomew's people because they say we must be? gasp Why couldn't she just pray with the pope like a normal MP nun? :roll:

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Don't you guess, though, that this is a cumulative thing, not related so much to Barbara Larin's recent excursion to Ukraine ?

I figured it was due to the change of Metropolitans in Rocor-Mp. Probably many people petitioned Met Hilarion to take disciplinary action. But he declined to, perhaps swayed by an appeal from the former nun when he visited her ill father, I seem to remember ?

It's good if the newish Met Nikolai is cracking down on such abuses. It's hard to tell what happened but obviously Bishop Luke took SOME initiative, anyway, to get her defrocked.

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The people who have consistently every single time gone after those on the opposite side of their jurisdictional squabble in the Ukraine, and have consistently not gone after heresy? Do I think they've suddenly started doing the opposite, and this at the exact time when she opposed them in their jurisdictional squabble?

No, absolutely not. That would be silly. They're not cracking down on abuses. They're cracking down on support for the wrong heretical patriarch.

Their falsehood in coming over here to grab territory over muh schismatics while having no problem with larger heresy and schism was a big part of my learning the truth about World Orthodoxy. We have nothing to support in this decision except that in its hypocrisy it vindicates the Russian True Orthodox. I will die on this hill.

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Don't say THAT, eish ! That sounds awful ! We want you here for 1000 years more ! You are so valuable.

I just caught sight of this pic from OrthoChristian, which, yes, was absolutely outraged on THIS count, I guess I see what you mean.

Anyway, the caption says that she often used to appear in public without her veil or habit.
I didn't know that !
I guess she was getting prepared for THIS new stage

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https://www.orthodoxtraditionalist.com/ ... e-religion

It would appear she's been enrolled with the OCU for two years already and doesn't recognize the defrocking, per the FB post at the bottom

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I thought that once you were a monk, you remained it for life (from what I remember from Saint Nikodemos's Manual of Confession). She could kiss the Pope's hand, write dubious things about sexuality without sanctions... She's a show-woman... Let's wait for the next episodes...

Priidite, poklonimsja i pripadem ko Hristu.

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Jean-Serge wrote: Sun 18 May 2025 11:38 am

I thought that once you were a monk, you remained it for life (from what I remember from Saint Nikodemos's Manual of Confession). She could kiss the Pope's hand, write dubious things about sexuality without sanctions... She's a show-woman... Let's wait for the next episodes...

Canons for thee but not for me. MP does it all the time. There was a US case which Bp. Enoch--IIRC--brought up in Fr. Joseph's show, in which an old nun was thrown out on the street for refusing to join the ROCOR union and the MP lied in court that they had laicised her. One of the true bishops had to go explain to a confused Jewish judge how it works. I think a kindly cop ended up taking her in. Perhaps Father can remind us who it was that confessed the faith in this way--@Suaidan

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