Protocols of the Elders of Zion

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Post by OrthodoxyOrDeath »

Ben,

Your post to Brendan seems very condescending.

I would ask you where is the spiritual profit in your "study" of your "enemy"? While pursuing your knowledge, did you remember to love and forgive your enemy? to sorrow for him or did you curse him for his audacity?

To ask these questions is the same to question his personal spirituality, which is itself a sign of illness.

Please consider this.

brendan

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viniamim wrote:

Brendan wrote: ..."shouldn't we at least educate ourselves as to the ways of evildoers to avoid being duped by them?"

Dear brother Brendan:

I would ask you where is the spiritual profit in your "study" of your "enemy"? While pursuing your knowledge, did you remember to love and forgive your enemy? to sorrow for him or did you curse him for his audacity?

What profit is there in the study of history, mathematics, or even car repair? I study such things in order to understand the world in which I live. To know what I'm doing.

Why would the study of the history and activities of the Jews be placed off-limits, especially activities hostile to Christianity?

How did you profit from your study? Did it show you a new way to pray more sincerely? Did it give you the opportunity to help a brother or sister in need? Did it give you an insight to your own spiritual growth? Did you receive a blessing from your study of evil? How did the words edify your soul and bring you closer to God? Where did it show you how to imitate Christ?

What kind of a question is that? Ask yourself the same questions in regard to any subject you ever studied.

Or did you and others like you, just fulfill the purpose of the evil you porport to hate? How can hating be of Christ? If you cannot imitate Christ, how can you take upon yourself the attributes of Christ? Learning the ways of evil makes it all the more easy for evil to dupe you, especially since he doesn't have to teach you the evil.

Evidently, I'm not making myself clear. Again, I certainly don't study evil to imitate it, but to identify it so as to avoid it. LOL.

As to pogroms, they are the CHRISTIAN version of the evil that you love to study. Perhaps you need to re-read the Sermon....more slowly this time.

And where has there been any anti-Jewish pogroms in the US? As far as I know, the extent of anti-Jewish discrimination in this country has been that Jews sometimes weren't allowed into private country clubs or maybe some hotels years ago shunned their business. At one time the Irish weren't exactly welcomed by some people. Other than that, Jews have been treated like anyone else.

This has been the second mention of pogroms, yet I certainly haven't advocated anything even remotely like that. With all due respect, I'm kind of disappointed at such an irrational knee-jerk reaction to mere criticism of Jews. I criticize them for anti-Christian activity and I'm basically accused of advocating anti-Jewish riots! And this is after I said that I DIDN'T think the Protocols of Zion were authentic! Oh well.

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I CAN NOT BELEIVE (what I'm seeing/ reading IS THIS REALLY HAPPENING) is this a Slavic Orthodox man Ordained to the Bishopric saying these twistings of the Apostel's words and sometimes outrifght LIES, I just know for a FACT none of you actually don't beleive NONE of this RIGHT?????????? but nothing suprises me anymore :( oh well I guess I'll have to discomebobulate these HALF truthes and LIES :lol:

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Artemon wrote:

I CAN NOT BELEIVE (what I'm seeing/ reading IS THIS REALLY HAPPENING) is this a Slavic Orthodox man Ordained to the Bishopric saying these twistings of the Apostel's words and sometimes outrifght LIES, I just know for a FACT none of you actually don't beleive NONE of this RIGHT?????????? but nothing suprises me anymore :( oh well I guess I'll have to discomebobulate these HALF truthes and LIES :lol:

"You Don't Speak For Me."
You who scribble on walls with your miniscule minds,
You who make midnight calls, you who rattle my blinds,
The violence you preach is the core of your creed,
Well you don't speak for me.

You call yourselves patriots swastika style,
You feed on the fear of the ignorant child,
But there's no love of nation or people or land
In the hatred behind your smile,
You don't speak for me.

I've seen where you come from, I've seen where you lead;
It's a poisonous fruit that grows from your seed.
You stir up the hatred till something explodes.
Well you don't speak for me.

You poison the airwaves with Ghengis Khan views;
You broadcast your bias and call it 'the news',
And you say that you speak for 'the millions out there'
And deny that you're lighting a dangerous fuse;
But you don't speak for me.

You don't speak for me; you don't speak for my friends.
We've followed that line, we've seen where it ends:
Intolerance, hatred, division and strife
But you don't speak for me.

brendan

Post by brendan »

George Australia wrote:

"You Don't Speak For Me."
You who scribble on walls with your miniscule minds,
You who make midnight calls, you who rattle my blinds,
The violence you preach is the core of your creed,
Well you don't speak for me.

You call yourselves patriots swastika style,
You feed on the fear of the ignorant child,
But there's no love of nation or people or land
In the hatred behind your smile,
You don't speak for me.

Looks like something I once saw on a Communist Party website. They don't like the truth either.

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dude you sound like a STRAIGHT Jew!! and I mean that from the HEART!! :shock:

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Post by Wheeler »

Konrad Heiden, in his book "Der Fuehrer" (1944) has a whole chapter on the "Protocols of Zion". He is the one that says its from the Tsarist police but his book sadly has no references anywhere.

You should all read Deuteronomy chapter 28 and following. It says as the Lord God rejoiced over you to do good, He will rejoice over you to destroy you. v63. Chapter 28 is the curse laid upon the Jews when they do not listen to EVERY word that proceeds out of the mouth of God.

v65, "Moreover among those nations he will not give thee quiet, neithe by any means shall the sole of they foot have rest..." History has born this out.

It says, the Jew will fear in the evening and fear in the morning. He will build and another will take away.

Just as the Hebrews were the persecutors of the pagans of Canaan. That evil was passed upon the Hebrews and the Christians and others shall be their persecutors.

Just like the Jews were the personal killers of Jesus Christ, they are also the killers of the corporate body of Jesus Christ the Church. This is the play and all must carry out their parts. Scripture can not be broken. It is what God has ordained. The Scriptures must come to past. There is no bigger proof of the truth of the scriptures than the evils than have befallen the Jews. God has spoken, causa finata.

The forefront of every anti-Christianism is a jew sad to say. They subconsciously desire the destruction of Christianity. They must. Their rejection of christ in the past is followed into modern times. It is their leadership of Communism that destroyed Orthodox Russia.

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