On the question of the calendar

[尼古拉前执事]

Joe are you crosslinking to this thread? If so the URL should be http://www.euphrosynoscafe.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9

[Andreas]

How do you feel about it?

[OrthodoxyOrDeath]

Bad.

[schetsmark]

This topic has probaly been discussed at length in prior posts, but I would like to ask the following:

Can anyone provide a brief summary on both sides of the issue? If there is another posting on this, please pass on the link. I am aware of the astrometrical reasons that are claimed for the Gregorian calendar, so I do not care to hear about scientific reasoning, I am thinking more of the theological arguements for the Gregorian and for the Kalendar Julii Caesaris (Sorry for the Latin, but I am a Roman historian and can not help myself sometimes).

I am not going to pass judgement of either side of the issue, I would like to know an learn more about the topic. This is something that I have been thinking about recently and would like to hear both sides of the issue.

[OrthodoxyOrDeath]

I am also very interested in hearing the theological reasons for the ecumenist calendar...anybody?

[schetsmark]

Here is a previous discussion on the Calendar isssue: http://www.euphrosynoscafe.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9

Nicholas,

Thank you. The discussions in the link you provided answers my questions on the subject.

[joasia]

I've always wondered why people of the new calendar churches have never understood the detriment of the difference between old and new calendar.

In other words, why do people just ignore the great significance of the spiritual disturbance that it causes?

For example, I follow the old calendar so the day of July 2 is really June 19, which is the date of Ap. Jude, the Brother of our Lord. But, for the new calendarists, it is the celebration of The Placing of the Robe of the Theotokos.

Before any calendar schism within Orthodoxy, we prayed together, as also, the angels in heaven sang for the day of the saints. But now, with the date differences, the new calendarists celebrate on different days than established with heaven.

The holy fathers taught that when we celebrate the glory of the date of a servant of God who has entered into God's Kingdom, the angels also rejoice for that soul.

But, how can we hold onto Orthodoxy in the truth of it's unification, if there are those who celebrate on the wrong day?

I was born in Dec., but if there were people who wanted to celebrate it in March, it wouldn't seem right to me, as I was born in Dec. The same goes with the commemoration of the saints.

It seems quite simple to me, but why do others have to make it so complicated?