The New Monophysites

[PFC Nektarios]

http://www.antiochian.org/News/Autonomy ... 010611.htm

The Antiochian Archdiocese is in the process of becoming an Autonomus Church.

In Christ
Nektarios

[尼古拉前执事]

Nektarios,

Your Synod and Patriarch REQUIRE it. They require both communion AND concelebration! You need to really read the provided links that show that your archdiocese was never nor is slated to be autonomous from YOUR Patriarchate, and that they require both communion and concelebration with the Syrian Monophysites. It shows the hierarchs reactions to this heresy as well.

The Holy Synod of Antioch has decided the following matters:

1) The complete and mutual respect between the two Churches for their rituals, spirituality, heritage and holy fathers; and the full protection of both the Antiochian and Syriac liturgical practices.

2) The incorporation of the fathers of both Churches and their heritage in general in the Christian education curriculum and theological teaching; and the exchange of theological professors and students.

3) The refraining from accepting members of one Church in the membership of the other whatever the reasons might be.

4) Organizing meetings of both Synods whenever need and necessity may arise.

5) Leaving every Church as a reference for its members in all matters pertaining to marriage, divorce, adoption etc.

6) If two bishops of the two different Churches meet for a spiritual service the one with the majority of the people will generally preside. But if the service is for the sacrament of holy matrimony the bishop of the bridegroom will preside.

7) Whatever has been previously mentioned does not apply to the concelebration among the bishops in the Divine Liturgy.

Whatever has been said in number six applies to the clergy of both Churches.

9) If one priest of either Church happens to be in a certain area he will serve the Divine Mysteries for the members of both Churches including the Divine Liturgy and the sacrament of holy matrimony. The same priest will keep an independent record for both Churches and transmit the registration of the members of the sister Church to its spiritual authority.

10) If two priests of both Churches happen to be in a certain community they will take turns, and in case they concelebrate the one with the majority of the people will preside.

11) If a bishop from one Church and a priest from the sister Church happen to concelebrate, presiding naturally belongs to the bishop even though being in the community of the priest on the condition that there are people of both Churches.

12) Ordinations into the Holy Orders are performed by the spiritual authorities on candidates in every respective Church prefereably in the presence of the brothers from the other sister Church.

13) Godfathers, Godmothers and witnesses in the sacrament of holy matrimony are allowed to be chosen from the members of both Churches without any discrimination.

14) In all mutual celebrations the first clergyman in ordination will preside over the ceremony.

15) All organizations from both Churches will co-operate in all matters whether educational, cultural and social for the enrichment of the brotherly spirit.

[尼古拉前执事]

Yes your 2nd through 4th links are from the first time they tried to claim autonomy only for it to be denied by your patriarch! Once again Philip announced it and again for the secretary of your patriarch it has been denied. This is on the Antiochian patriarchate site if you will follow the links I posted to you in these threads.

[PFC Nektarios]

Which one there are so many lol

In Christ
nektarios

[尼古拉前执事]

Read them all. If you are an Antiochian, I am sure you will take the work of your patriarch and its synod which will show you why the traditional Orthodox position and the Antiochian position are not compatible. Show me the faith of your synod and I show you your fait. (or rather this is how it should be)

[Anastasios]

1. Talking about his Natures.

1. We recieved a letter from our Metropolitan giveing us a Autunomus satus, I believe either in the furture or if i doenst already exist. It was in a letter I will find it and post it.
2. I asked a few Antiochian Priest about Communing Monophysites and they said the Archdicoese doesnt allowed it, so you have come across a priest who should be defrocked.

In Christ
nektarios

1) What does that mean, "talking about his Natures." Non-Chalcedonians believe Christ is a human.
3)I have seen it in more than one parish. Ask Justin Kissell. Your patriarch communes Catholics as well. I could go into lots of stories to prove this but it would not be beneficial to spread such information on the internet.

anastasios

[Justin Kissel]

Indeed, I've observed such communing in two different parishes I've attended. I talked to people who would know what was going on (parish priest, reader, etc.), and essentially there are no worries about it. After all, the Patriarch and Metropolitan wouldn't tell them to do something that is wrong, would they?