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Below is the link for Vladimir Moss' "apologetical" site. I post it to illustrate the comprehensive and scholarship of his position vs a person who doesn't realize Rus' was a Varangian state and doesn't believe the PRIMARY CHRONICLE is a "primary source"...

Actually, I have selections from the Primary Chronicle. I do not need Mr. Moss to interpret them for me.

Continuing to assert the Primary Chronicle as a source against the sagas and the A-S Chronicle isn't scholarship anyway. If the sagas recount, as a matter of fact, Icelanders and Norwegians and Danes and such going off to the Varangian Guard, that (to my mind) is better evidence than a general statement of "fact" from the P.C..

Besides, you're making a long trail of mistakes here. First, there are no "the Ruriks". Rurik is one specific person, one of three brothers which the P.C. says brought the Rus' to (in his case) Novgorod. Likewise, this is what the P.C. says about the "Varangians":

"They accordingly went overseas to the Varangian Rus: these particular Varangians were known as Rus, just as some are called Swedes, and others Normans, Angles, and Goths, for they were thus named." (Selected in Medieval Russia's Epics, Chronicles and Tales from The Russian Primary Chronicle as translated by Samuel Cross, published in Harvard Studies and Notes in Philology and Literature Vol. VII)

Note that this passage is ambiguous, and that it doesn't give a specific meaning to "Varangian". Indeed, it suggests that "Varangian" is a catch-all label for Northwestern Europeans in general. But more importantly, it is not a primary source for the meaning of the word as used by the Byzantines!

If Vladimir Moss cannot get such a simple thing as the dates in the A.S. Chronicle right, how am I supposed to take him as an authority? Now Runciman, he is a different story. But you seem to be taking this argument largely from Moss, and he just isn't doing good history. Indeed, his version of the Prophecy of Edward the Confessor isn't history at all.

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bogatyr wrote:

What we have with Moss which we don't have with you is a consistent history which melds with other historians and expresses an Orthodox viewpoint and is substantive.

What we have with Moss is a convert engaging in a fantasy about how he is maintaining continuity with his own history (when in fact he is not). That phrase "Orthodox viewpoint" is exactly where this gets into trouble. History does not need an Orthodox viewpoint; even such an Orthodox viewpoint has to do good history first.

And what we have here isn't good history. Every historian I come across denies this theory of the Varangian Guard, and all the primary sources I've looked at myself are either inconsistent with it or hint (as with the P.C.) that it isn't true. But furthermore, we've now crawled down into a little corner of speculation away from the central question. The one piece of hard evidence I've come across (and to which I do not have direct access, so I can hardly stand upon it) says that the theory of Saxon Orthodoxy isn't true (the group of refugee Saxons importing Latin priests). I find in reading about the P.C. that real historians are sharply divided over whether the P.C. is a credible source anyway, whereas the A-S Chronicle is indisputably a contemporary account for the period in dispute.

Then we get to this deathbed prophecy. Now, Moss's presentation of this is not historical, but religious. I don't know where his translation of the document comes from, and I note that the translation from the Catholic Encyclopedia is radically different (but clearly based in the same text). But at any rate, the dates he gives at the end are simply wrong. ANd all of this is presented on his own authority.

I have been reading "the material available" for twenty years. I first became interested in the A-S Chronicle in college, which is also when I was introduced to the sagas. So I don't think you are going to trump me in terms of years of study. (Indeed, I'm guessing that I have more years of close association with Orthodoxy than you do.) If you are going to prefer Vladimir Moss and various others simply because they are Orthodox, it's obvious that there's no hope of dissuading you from your conclusions. But you need not bother trying to persuade me that it is history.

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:o Utter nonsense. That means you haven't read any real historians. Meyendorff citing Oustromoff, et al on the Varangian Guard. All histories of Byzantium deal with it. Take a look at any Byzantine Encyclopedia. You are arguing Rus' didn't exist and the Varangians weren't its rulers. They had no dealings with Constantinople. This is now at the point of being obstinately obtuse. Stop emphasizing your ignorance and pick up a book and READ. Meyendorff's historical treatments are some of the best and well documented. And the fact remains Moss supports his work and his erudition is quite good. Yours is nonexistant. He expresses an Orthodox viewpoint something you feel is unnecessary. That speaks alot as to your bias and the authenticity of your approach, its ripeness, and your ultimate "work". LOL!
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Re: Varangian Guard

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Utter nonsense. That means you haven't read any real historians.

Vladimir Moss is, by his own admission, not a professional historian. He is a psychologist.

And while I'm at it, I would point out that you aren't doing good history either. The passage from Moss that you keep citing has no references and no sources. Why should I believe it? I've provided links to sources (or quoted same), even primary sources where I could; you are telling me what Meyendorff said someone else said and so forth. What should I believe that you are even getting Meyendorff right? At least people can see the sources I'm using!

You keep coming back to this "Orthodox viewpoint". How is that not revisionism? If you have to drag Orthodoxy into it, you aren't doing history any more, but rather self-justification. Orthodoxy doesn't need this sort of "defense", not from you or anyone else.

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The uses of the Varangian Guard
by Timothy Dawson
In the year 987 Prince Vladimir of Kiev sent a force of six thousand men to aid the emperor of the Romaioi Basil II against the usurper, Bardas Phocas. In an army that had a thousand-year history of using foreign levies and mercenaries this force earned itself an unique place. Its survivors became the nucleus of the imperial bodyguard which became known as the Varangian Guard. The Varangian Guard had a reputation as en elite fighting force, but in a nation which was the most prosperous and militarily sophisticated in the world at the time the unit may be seen to have had uses perhaps surpassing the military ones.

This essay will concentrate on the heyday of the Guard from its founding to 1204; for while there is evidence for some survival of the unit in name after the Fourth Crusade,1 it is, as Sigfus Blondal put it, no more than "the ghost of the regiment",2 a purely ceremonial entity with nothing like the prestige or military effectiveness of the earlier period.

Despite their fearsome reputation the "Varangians of the City" probably saw much less action than the army as a whole. Their duty was to stand behind the Emperor, and since he usually had many able generals to conduct ordinary campaigns and was often content to use them,3 they would only leave the City for those major enterprises of attack or defence that the Emperor oversaw personally. Even then they might not actually take part in the fighting, as is evidenced by John II's initial refusal to "waste his Treasures" at the battle of Beroë even in the face of imminent stalemate or defeat.4

A task of the Varangian Guard in barracks at Constantinople was civil policing. Their character as foreign mercenaries untainted by the political and religious passions that stirred the local population and solely loyal to the Emperor must have made them especially useful in performing such risky and delicate tasks as arresting, imprisoning and punishing people who held some religious or aristocratic standing and who might otherwise have been able to work on sympathies existing in native troops.

The regiment probably also had a dampening effect on court intrigue, making it less likely to erupt into open revolt. The evidence for this is limited, but the Alexiad reveals that the Guard was a major consideration in Alexios' strategy in his rebellion once underway,5 and it is a reasonable inference to conclude that the Guard's existence and character would have made him think very carefully before he took military steps. The Varangians were almost always uncompromisingly loyal to the incumbent Emperor. The exceptions to this occur in situations manifesting a combination of popular discontent, Varangian disaffection, and the presence of a highly legitimate replacement. The clearest example of this was the overthrow of Michael V in 1042, wherein the Guard became the spearhead of widespread discontent caused by Michael's policies and attempts to purge the upper bureaucracy and the royal family. In this uprising the Guard reinstated the Dowager Empress Zoe, whom Michael had stripped of her position and consigned to a monastery on false charges of treason. The final punishment of blinding was inflicted by the Varangian Commander, Harald Sigurdsson, later as King of Norway to become known as the "Stern-ruler" (Hardrada). This episode does not entirely paint the regiment as pillars of virtue, because one major cause of its ire was the imprisonment of Harald and two close associates on the probably justified charges of misappropriation of imperial booty and tax-farming.6 The prodigious quantities of loot that Harald sent home and took with him when he returned to Norway themselves became legendary.7 Returning to the original topic, episodes such as that of the succession of Constantine VIII show that the Guard valued legitimate succession in the western manner almost as much as simple encumbancy.8

The uses of the Varangian Guard had another less tangible side. In the eleventh and twelfth centuries it became an important pillar of imperial ideology. Byzantine chroniclers make much of the warriors having come from what were to them the farthest edges of the world lured by far-flung tales of the glory of New Rome and its ruler. The depictions of the Varangians' imposing stature and combative prowess were undoubtedly true, but even their truth was probably somewhat a matter of contrivance. To enter the regiment it was necessary to purchase a position for a substantial sum of gold. Hence an aspiring Varangian had to have been successful enough to have made the perilous journey to the Great City with cash in hand, and is likely then to have had to pass some kind of selection criteria designed to maintain the quality of the company, with the unsuccessful applicants being shunted off to the provincial varangian regiments.

The influx of Saxons in the wake of the Norman Conquest, and those who followed in later centuries, was especially useful to the propagandists. Anna Comnena 9 in the late eleventh century and Cinnamus 10 and others in the twelfth were able to hark back in a fanciful fashion to Britain's time as a Roman province and imply a continuity of fealty there.

Curiously Norse sources almost seem willing to accede to Byzantine political theory, explicitly conceding the Emperor of Constantinople a higher status than local rulers. Even if they do not profess any notional fealty, an echo of the Oecumenical Empire and the Family of Kings was plainly heard in Scandia.11

For propaganda purposes it was desirable that the Emperor's elite should manifest some piety reflecting the sacrality of the Purple. The common image of Viking adventurers is that of heathen raiders despoiling monasteries and churches in the British isles, Neustria and Aquitaine, but the kingdoms of the North had all been thoroughly christianised by the first decade of the eleventh century. The original force of Varangians may well itself have been mostly Christian, since its despatch to Constantinople had been part of the manoeuvring that saw Vladimir receive the Byzantine Princess Anna as wife, and more, in exchange for imposing Christianity on the Principality of Kiev.12 The Varangian Guard had the distinction of its own churches, something not associated with other military units in the empire. The earliest of these seems to have been set up early in the eleventh century, but got caught in the crossfire of the struggle between Patriarch and Pope and closed in 1052.13 More is known of its successor, which was established not far from Hagia Sophia. In familiar fashion it was built in fulfilment of a supplicatory vow that was supposed to have turned the tide of the battle of Beroë. Norse sources say that this church was dedicated to Saint Olaf Haraldsson, and that his sword hung above the altar,14 but more reliable accounts indicate that it was dedicated in typical Byzantine manner to the Theotokos, Mary.15

Thus far I have dealt with the uses of the Varangian Guard to the Emperor, but the existence of the Guard was useful to other monarchs as well. I have already referred to the wealth Harald Hardrada obtained during his sojourn in Byzantium. The largesse and ostentation that this permitted him did much to acquire and strengthen his rule.16 Besides that, his time in the Guard became a major part in his royal mythology. King Harald's Saga contains a number of common folk-motif stories along with the more factual accounts. These tales are known to predate Harald's period in the East, and scholars have surmised that these tales were brought back by Harald's companions and incorporated into his mythology within his lifetime.17 I have mentioned the hierarchy of kings embraced in Norse literature, and King Harald's Saga and other treatments of his life make much use of the transferred glory of the Basileus by exaggerating his position and the favour in which he was held.

A similar use is made of reflected imperial glory in the story of King Eric of Denmark who passed through Constantinople on pilgrimage. He is said to have gained high favour and lavish gifts from the Emperor for his wise and humble advice to members of the Guard.18

There are two other examples of how the Varangian Guard was invoke to posthumously glorify rulers, enhance the sacrality of kingships and add lustre to national folklores. I have already referred to the cult of Saint Olaf. The thirteenth-century saga writer Snorri Sturlusson gives a long account of the events that turned the tide battle of Beroë, and especially of the miracles worked by Olaf's sword which brought his sanctity to the notice of the Emperor.19 Snorri draws on a source not far removed in time from the battle, but the religious aspects of the tale are not corroborated in other sources, Norse or Greek, there is not record of any sword having hung above the altar of any church in the City. It seems certain that this is a hagiographical concoction.

The other example of the Saga of Saint Edward the Confessor, a much debated composition 20 originating in Iceland in its surviving example, and probably dating from the fourteenth century but perhaps earlier. This is a partisan account of events surrounding the Norman Conquest of England, which includes a tale of a mass migration of Saxons to Byzantium, some to settle on the Black Sea and others to join the Varangian Guard. Many of the events are confirmed by other evidence, but the Saga falls clearly into the genre of Saxon mythology that have given us such familiar stories and Robin Hood and Ivanhoe.

The Varangian Guard was thus more than a military bulwark for the Byzantine Emperor, and formed an element of the ideological foundations for rulers East and West, and grist for the mills of national folklores.

Notes
1 For example in the fourteenth century court ceremony manual of Pseudo-Kodinos. Jean Verpeaux Pseudo-Kodinos: Traitédes Offices, Paris, 1966 p. 179, 183, 184 and further.

2 Sigfus Blondal, The Varangians of Byzantium revised by Benedikt S. Benedikz, Cambridge, 1978 Chapter 7.

3 The exception which might be cited amongst the Comneni, Alexios I, John II and Manual I, have had their exploits somewhat exaggerated byclassicising biographers who felt compelled to depict them in a similar light to the heros of ancient Greek literature.

4 Snorri Snorrasson's account cited in Blondal (n. 2 above) p. 149.

5 Anna Comnena, Alexiad, translated by E.R.A. Sewter, Harmondsworth, 1985 p. 95f.

6 Blondal (n. 2 above) p.77-87.

7 Ibid. p. 78 and H.R. Ellis Davidson The Viking Road to Byzantium London, 1976 p.226-8.

8 Blondal (n. 2 above) p.113.

9 Alexiad (n. 5 above) p. 95.

10 Quoted in Blondal (n. 2 above) p. 150.

11 King Eric's position is depicted as lower in Eirics drapa by Magnus Skeggjason, quoted in Blondal, p. 134. Numerous references confirm it for example the "Great King" of Thjodolf Arnorsson's Sexstefja (Blondal,p. 93) and especially "Lord of Kings" in Einar Skularsson's Geisli (Blondal, p.186). Thorvald Kodransson's Thattr gives a tributary position to Kiev (Blondal, p.198).

12 Blondal, p. 44 and Ellis Davidson, p. 179f.

13 Steven Runciman, The Byzantine Theocracy, Cambridge, 1977, p.106-7.

14 Blondal, p.148ff

15 Ibid., p.185.

16 Ellis Davidson (n. 7 above) p. 227.

17 Ibid., p. 214ff and Blondal, p. 71.

18 Blondal (n. 1 above) p. 132ff.

19 Ibid., p. 148ff.

20 Cf. Leslie Rogers "Anglo-Saxons and Icelanders in Byzantium", in Byzantine Papers, Canberra, 1981.


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The Varangians formed a subset of the Viking diaspora: as opposed to those Scandinavians who sailed west from Norway or Denmark, the Varangians tended to travel east and south from Sweden. Promoting trading, piracy and mercenary militarism, they roamed the river systems and portages of what later became Russia, reaching the Caspian Sea and Constantinople.

Rus'
The Varangians are first mentioned by the Russian Primary Chronicle as having arrived from beyond the Baltic Sea around the mid-9th century, invited by the warring Slavic tribes to bring peace to the region (these Slavic and Finnish tribes had chased away the first Scandinavian settlers). They were led by Rurik and his two brothers Askold and Dir, who settled around the Slavic village of Novgorod. These early Varangians were likely legendary, but a real Swedish settlement, Aldeigjuborg, was established around Lake Ladoga in the 8th century.
The Slavic inhabitants called these Swedes "Rus'," which is probably derived from an Old Norse term for "the men who row," signifying their maritime heritage. Another term for them was Varangian, which was likely derived from words meaning "those who swear oaths," and came to specifically denote Scandinavian mercenaries from the areas controlled by the Rus'.

The Varangian Guard
Varangians first appear in the Byzantine world in 839, when the emperor Theophilus II negotiated with them to provide a few mercenaries for his army. Although the Rus' often had peaceful trading relations with the Byzantines, Varangian raiders sometimes attacked from the north. Such attacks came in 860, 907, 911, 941, 945, 971, and finally 1043. These raids were successful only in causing the Byzantines to re-arrange their trade treaties; militarily, they were always defeated by the superior Byzantines, especially by the use of Greek fire.
The ruling class of the two powerful city-states of Novgorod and Kiev eventually became Varangian, and the Byzantines soon acquired an official mercenary force that became the Varangian Guard. This occurred in 988, when Kievan Prince Vladimir the Great converted to Orthodox Christianity. In exchange for a marriage to Basil II's sister Anna, Vladimir gave Basil 6000 Varangians to use as his own personal bodyguard. The Varangian Guard was one of the fiercest and most loyal elements of the Byzantine army, as described in Anna Comnena's chronicle of the reign of her father Alexius I, the Alexiad. Their main weapon was a long axe, although they could also be used as swordsmen or archers. They were the only element of the army to successfully defend part of Constantinople during the Fourth Crusade, although the Guard was apparently disbanded after the city's capture in 1204. By this time, the term Varangian referred to any mercenary from nothern Europe, and the Guard was probably composed more of English and Scottish mercenaries than Russians or Scandinavians.

One of the most famous members of the Varangian Guard was the future king Harald III of Norway, also known as Harald Hadrada, who arrived in Constantinople in 1035. He participated in eighteen battles and became Akolythos, the commander, of the Guard before returning home in 1043.

In contrast to the intense Viking influence in Normandy and the British Isles, Varangian culture did not survive to a great extent in the east. Instead, it rapidly assimilated to the Slavic substrate.

See also
Rurik, Rulers of Kievan Rus'
Roslagen, Svealand, Svear
Byzantine aristocracy and bureaucracy

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