New Juris poll

[尼古拉前执事]

Oh, you joined the Orthodox Church? I wish you would have invited me to your Baptism.

[TomS]

Oh, you joined the Orthodox Church? I wish you would have invited me to your Baptism.

Re-baptizing him would be against the canons of the Orthodox Church.

[尼古拉前执事]

To, which canon calls for those sprinkled in the Papal church to not be Baptized upon entering Orthodoxy?

[尼古拉前执事]

BTW Tom, in Greece, a converting RC would, almost without fail be Baptized. Its been this way pretty much all along.

[LatinTrad]

Um oh yeah except the ECUMENICAL PATRIARCH FORBADE THE PRACTICE IN THE 17th CENTURY!!!!

[bogoliubtsy]

these "few schismatic sects" have the teachings of the Saints and councils to back up their actions. the World "orthodox" have neo-papal patriarch worship to back them up. How can a person who says the papists are "the other lung" not be a heretic?????

Nicholas Zollars

Joe/Nicholas Zollars,

Why don't you ease up a bit, my friend. In the not so distant past your views were in complete contradiction to the ones you hold now and were presented with the same "zeal", yet you seem to present yourself as an authority on Churchly matters. If I may, a few of your comments from this past July(i.e. a mere 4.5 months ago).

Posted: Thu 31 July 4:25 am Post subject: yes I did

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I did decide to return to the Holy Roman Catholic
Church. I am just too western to be Eastern, and the
reason I was leaving in the first place was a refusel
to submit myself in obedience to the teachings of the
Church. Also my confessor had told me to do something
that I did not wish to do. In addition to this, I
firmly believe that those who die outside of the Roman
Catholic Church, whether eastern or western rite, have
no hope for salvation. Thankfully I came to my senses
before making any firm steps into schism.

I really must apologize to serge and others who tried
to talk some sense into me, but I was simply too
pigheaded to listen.

In addition, I got really burned out from the Novus
Ordo services (most I dare not call a Mass). But when
I sat down and compared the Immemorial Tridentine
Latin Mass with the Orthodox Divine Liturgy, there
were several red flags raised concerning the Orthodox
Divine Liturgy and liturgical customs. The Tridentine
Mass in my opinion more fully represents the timeless
truth of the Gospels.

Also, and perhaps most unfortunately, almost every
Orthodox I either met in person or corresponded with
via the internet, was either professing liberalism and
ecumenism (both heresies I would sooner die than
pronounce) or extremely angry and bitter. There was an
exception or two, but perhaps these were the
exceptions that proved the rule. I don't think I could
stand being in a Church where love and christian
charity seem to have no place along side
jurisdictional politics and legalism.

And:

As for comparing the Tridentine Mass vs. the Orthodox Divine Liturgy, I believe the Orthodox is inferior (although only slightly) because it is seperated from Eternal Rome

And:

those secular historians who are completely seperated from theological and eschatoligical issues recognize that it was the Orthodox who split from Rome.

[尼古拉前执事]

Um oh yeah except the ECUMENICAL PATRIARCH FORBADE THE PRACTICE IN THE 17th CENTURY!!!!

Source? Did he forbid it for a time in his diocese, or what exactly?