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ICONOPHILI wrote:

SPECULATIONS AND GROUNDLESSSS, DID you read SNOOPS explainations(?)

First, it's "Snopes", and second, yes I did, and I read much of the tripe from these sites you keep bringing up too, and third, my medication is still working just fine.

this is what I was talking about a long time agao how people are easily convinced by "Elaboratly Constructed words by the Gov" when explaining qouestions that have come up after MAJOR incidents have taken place, ( JFK, RFK, Ruby Ridge, WACO, Oklahoma City, AND NOW 9/11)

Well, you seem to be convinced by shoddily constructed explanations from these conspiracy sites, and what does that tell me?

Also, you're conflating a lot of things that have little in common. Sane people do have questions about Ruby Ridge and Waco, because there is actual evidence of the mishandling of those incidents; conversely, the agencies in question have obvious reasons to attempt to limit investigation of the conduct. In the cases of Oklahoma CIty and 9/11, the trail of evidence in both cases is quite plain and the conclusions essentially beyond serious question. RFK and JFK? The evidence isn't perhaps as solid but there's no particularly good reason to take the conspiracy-mongers seriously, since their track record is approximately zero successes.

Look at Snoopes exlaination, 1. They say that there are "Eyewitnesses" that saw the plane "Hit the gound and then hit the Pentagon"(.)

Well, yeah, there are lots of eyewitnesses. The main commuter route into Washington goes right by the pentagon at this point; at two in the morning there would still be lots of witnesses. The conspiracy sites keep brushing this off because, after all, people who actual saw the thing are a lot better authority than somebody with a website speculating.

and thats why the plane didn't go deep into then Pentagon, then Snoops dares give a link to the famous "ALTERED" video of that "THING" which they call "a 757" hitting the Pentagon,

You claim it's altered. You can't prove it and what good is your expertise anyway?

3. A CARFUL EXAMINATION og the ground at the Pentagon shows no crash on the ground of the Pentagon

You say that, but again, what good is your judgement? From what I see, there is no basis for making any judgement at all from the pictures.

1. Snoopes says the gravel was layed down so the trucks wouldn't slip and slide, HAHAHAHAHAHA, 1. The Lawn wasn't wet that day(.)

Yeah, but Rome wasn't built nor for that matter torn down in a day, and neither was the pentagon. We get forty plus inches of rain a year here; if the lawn wasn't wet that day (and it wasn't-- it was an incredibly gorgeous day), it was going to be wet soon.

This is getting lamer and lamer. Can't you find something more entertaining?

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Reading what normally very nice people write on this makes me think - www - Vav Vav Vav - 666 - there really is no technical reason to put www infront of web addresses. Makes me want to become a luddite!

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Andy:
Based on your writings I would say you have a big heart. I compliment you on that. I have been told my heart is too soft, I have generally taken that as a compliment.

As regards this young man.....and I do believe he is young....I find myself having less and less simpathy for him. I think he does not have enough to do in his life. I don't think he has a life, else he would be more concerned with living it in an Othodox manner. He certainly has no family...as in wife and children....no wife would put up with this by-product-of-the-nether-end-of-a-bull. And as I assume you would agree having small children would leave him with little time.

I honestly believe someone dropped him on his head ....several times.

Consider this....would you put up with this nonsense from your son? or would you find him something better to concentrate on?

Katya

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Dear Katya,

I have had little to put up with, and those around me have had so much bologna from me! :) - truly, I can relate to the fellow. God puts up with so much from me. I wish I had adequate tears of repentance for all the time I have wasted and grief I have caused!

This medium can be addicting, and the paranoia generated from so much information can also be devestating to our minds.

Especially for 'guys' - we have a stake in the world, yet at the same time we know we must leave it for the Kingdom of God. This causes allot of stress due to our unbelief ('Yes Lord I believe, help my unbelief'). When you combine this with pride (male ego) - well, we see things spiritual and instead of comparing to things spiritual or spiritual, we compare things spiritual to things!

Remember, in the Garden God made animal skins for man, because having had his eyes opened, and being such a spiritual being - he would go insane without the thicker garment of flesh (material thought). Iconophilli is going through a transition of thought. Your advice for us earlier to have faith in Jesus is the correct message.

Please pray for my wife, for in addition to putting up with me and the other children - her father is sick :( .

Thanks for your prayers,

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Post by Ekaterina »

Andy:

Your family is in my prayers....If I may ask what is your wife's name?

Katya

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Post by AndyHolland »

Dear Katya,

Her name is Barbara.

Wonderful Saint, both of them!

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Post by ICONOPHILI »

Ekaterina wrote:

Andy:
Based on your writings I would say you have a big heart. I compliment you on that. I have been told my heart is too soft, I have generally taken that as a compliment.

As regards this young man.....and I do believe he is young....I find myself having less and less simpathy for him. I think he does not have enough to do in his life. I don't think he has a life, else he would be more concerned with living it in an Othodox manner. He certainly has no family...as in wife and children....no wife would put up with this by-product-of-the-nether-end-of-a-bull. And as I assume you would agree having small children would leave him with little time.

I honestly believe someone dropped him on his head ....several times.

Consider this....would you put up with this nonsense from your son? or would you find him something better to concentrate on?

Katya

1. Why are you worried about me wife and what she thinks?

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