RTOC consecrated a Bishop for Serbian TOC

[Tryphon]

[quote][/quote][quote="Priest Siluan"][quote="Tryphon"][quote="Priest Siluan"][quote="Ekklisiastikos"]
Why the Russians two days after their visit to Archbishop Kallinikos and his objections to the ordiantion of HIS priest (fr. Akakios) they proceed to this action? Were they truly looking forward to our union or not ?[/quote

How many TOC clergymen are in Serbia? Are/were all of them under GOC-Abp Kallinikos? are there other TOC jurisdictions and TOC Clergymen? Thank you.[/
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For now there are the Akakios,Nectarios,Stephen,Atanasios,Slavisha,Haralampos and Methodios in Serbia. In Greece there are Priestmonks Averky and Joseph. That makes thetotal # 9. Akakios plus 2 votes for Him with 6 against.
In Serbia currently there's the GOC under ArchBishop Kallinikos,and there's a few parishes under ArchBishop Nicholas of the Matthewite GOC. Then there's ArchBishop Artemije and some parishes/Monasterys who have stopped commerating the Patriarch and their current Bishop and are commerating All True Orthodox Bishops.

[Ephrem]

In Serbia currently there's the GOC under ArchBishop Kallinikos,and there's a few parishes under ArchBishop Nicholas of the Matthewite GOC. Then there's ArchBishop Artemije and some parishes/Monasterys who have stopped commerating the Patriarch and their current Bishop and are commerating All True Orthodox Bishops.

The latter parishes, who commemorate "All True Orthodox Bishops", do you know when it was that they broke from the Patriarch? Also, do you know how many such parishes/monasteries there are, and what are the names of any of them?

[Tryphon]

Our situation is not the same one, we are a mission in a missionary territory.

This is exactly what Serbia is! Since the serbian hierarchy fell into apostasy then the serbian autocephallic church is vanished and Serbia is a missionary territory!
The entire World is a missionary territory depending to what Synodia we are under

Greeks were doing their besto for obstructing any self-administration of our Serbian brothers. And Greeks are not exactly the most suitable for speaking against the chauvinism.

This is Greek chauvinism fr. Siluan :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnPIDuvP ... re=related

The Greeks around Greece, USA and Australia..are those who collected money for the construction of their monasteries and not the Russians! Were where the Russians all these years? This is at least UNGRATEFULNESS and Greeks don't know this word! Instead they have the word "filotimo"

("pride" it's not the correct google translation for "filotimo"..)

[Tryphon]

In Serbia currently there's the GOC under ArchBishop Kallinikos,and there's a few parishes under ArchBishop Nicholas of the Matthewite GOC. Then there's ArchBishop Artemije and some parishes/Monasterys who have stopped commerating the Patriarch and their current Bishop and are commerating All True Orthodox Bishops.

The latter parishes, who commemorate "All True Orthodox Bishops", do you know when it was that they broke from the Patriarch? Also, do you know how many such parishes/monasteries there are, and what are the names of any of them?

There are a few in number and most of them are according to lineage of Saints Nikolai and Justin. Many have been scandalized by 2 recent events; the open
persecution of ArchBishop Artemije due to His decades long Stand and battle with sergianism and Ecumenism within a good number of Clergy of the SP; and the Serbian Patriarch lighting Jewish menorahs this past December. Not to mention the anticipated threat that the Anti-Christ Pope of Rome might set foot inside Serbia for the first time ever in 2013.
There are many Catacomb chapels springing up also,in anticipation of open persecution's and current ones.
One monastery of Saint Nicholas the wonderworker has openly been battling their territorial Bishop for quite some time. They have been doing Great missionary work in educating the faithful and printing materials for belivers who are not tech-savvy. The Priest-Monk Fr.Simeon serves the divine Liturgy every day( When the typicon allows) and has most trully given his whole life unto Christ our GOD. Now Father Simeon was under obedience to a great elders and Spiritual Children of Saint Nikolai of Serbia,Archimandrite Sava and Petar .He has great respect and admiration for the TOC and many different synods are aware of Him likewise.

[Tryphon]

Our situation is not the same one, we are a mission in a missionary territory.

This is exactly what Serbia is! Since the serbian hierarchy fell into apostasy then the serbian autocephallic church is vanished and Serbia is a missionary territory!

Greeks were doing their besto for obstructing any self-administration of our Serbian brothers. And Greeks are not exactly the most suitable for speaking against the chauvinism.

This is Greek chauvinism fr. Siluan :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnPIDuvP ... re=related

The Greeks around Greece, USA and Australia..are those who collected money for the construction of their monasteries and not the Russians! Were where the Russians all these years? This is at least UNGRATEFULNESS and Greeks don't know this word! Instead they have the word "filotimo"

("pride" it's not the correct google translation for "filotimo"..)

Well the way to Hell is paved with good intentions. ArchBishop Kallinikos his hands are clean. Even last year the open attacks thru the" British open letters" on His Eminence by a few puffed up ones and He NEVER notified ArchBishop Paul to inform Him who He was sponsoring in the US and Canada. Not only money,but How many seeds of dissension have been planted here? Many various jurisdictions were visited,quite the PR move.

[leonidas]

Since the serbian hierarchy fell into apostasy then the serbian autocephalous church is vanished and Serbia is a missionary territory!

Correction: Serbia is not missionary territory. That is not the position of the Greek Church nor has the Greek Synod ever made such a statement. See "Letter of Metropolitan Pavlos to Hieromonk Akakios in Serbia": http://www.euphrosynoscafe.com/forum/vi ... f=2&t=9265.

[Tryphon]

Since the serbian hierarchy fell into apostasy then the serbian autocephalous church is vanished and Serbia is a missionary territory!

Correction: Serbia is not missionary territory. That is not the position of the Greek Church nor has the Greek Synod ever made such a statement. See "Letter of Metropolitan Pavlos to Hieromonk Akakios in Serbia": http://www.euphrosynoscafe.com/forum/vi ... f=2&t=9265.

There has been much written regarding the pan-heresy of Ecumenism in the Serbian Church but not enough of the Orthodox faithful in Serbia. Serbia NEVER changed the calendar or ever Had their Patriarch declare open loyalty to the Communists as was done in Greece and Russia. Even if the flame is small its still burning. Bp Artemije has always had a n Orthodox confession of faith ( maybe not as zealous,as we'd like) but it was never ecumenistic or Sergianist! He stood up to NATO commanders and generals and forbade the vice president from entering Holy monasteries in Kosovo and Methohije.