Intercommunion with the Episcopal Church during WW 1 & II

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Re: Intercommunion with the Episcopal Church during WW 1 & I

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Barbara wrote:

That's a really good description of his manner of communicating.

I am faintly curious as to what his agenda is, actually.

And also what his attitude toward ROCOR in its pre-union days was.

All that i know about him is that he wasn't too interested in visiting his parishes -
someone said this. He would do the bare minimum, attending patronal feast days.
But seemed reluctant to be more involved. I am not sure whether that is true, too.

It would fit with his incredibly active Internet postings, however. Maybe more
of a reclusive type ? He was Irish Catholic, I know, which is usually more outgoing
or happy-go-lucky.

I had no idea he was on that Indiana list. He seems to be everywhere !

[Maybe he will show up HERE - next !!]

He was Irish Protestant before his conversion to Orthodoxy. His mother was a Baptist, and when he went to her funeral about 15 years ago, he preached that he went to confession immediately after returning home from that funeral, so yes, he is quite devout.

I was in the OCA. If there were a Catholic family seeking entrance into the OCA, Bishop Tikhon usually mandated that they wait between one to three years before they would be received, and he wanted them to renounce all the Roman heresies per the Hapgood text. Even though several Catholic converts wanted to become deacons or priests, they were not ordained under Bishop Tikhon's leadership. However, Bishop Benjamin did ordain them. From what my friends tell me, there is now a surplus of priests, so that several parishes now have two priests.

Lord Jesus Christ, have mercy on me a sinner.

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Re: Intercommunion with the Episcopal Church during WW 1 & I

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Oh THAT explains a real lot to me !
Thanks so much, Maria.

One thing I was thinking of after I posted this was that it was so weird to be praising
billy graham the way Bp Tikhon sounded to be doing. That was the line that my eyes caught -
-- and rejected !

Aha. That explains, too, why the OCA - West seems SO anti-Roman Catholic. More so than one would
ever expect when by comparison, at OCA Central, the Chancellor apparently likes Mother Teresa.

Well, if you have friends still there, do they have any insights which would help explain what's going on?

[Were they pro or anti Jonah ?!!! I don't know the OCA sites at all. If one were
judging from this Monomakhos one which you posted links for,
one would get quite a surprising picture !
Do you have any feelings about which of their hierarchs should be given
the White Hat ? Not that ANYONE deserves it, with the autocephaly trick the OCA played,
back in 1970. I was hoping that sane minds would prevail and they will apologize to Rocor
for having caused SO MUCH TROUBLE over the years, I bet.
It's a different Rocor, anyway, but at least a symbolic gesture of regret seems to be
in order. Is that impossible to happen, are they determined in their own [poorly chosen] path ?

I would much appreciate any insights you may have picked up along the way over the years --
i admit I got really befuddled looking at that site and had to stay away from looking at it for awhile
to clean out my thoughts....

Also do you think Bishop Tikhon is just casting about to fill up his time ?
I assume he is speaking on behalf of himself and objectively.
But could he be part of a group?

This is TOO confusing.

Anyway i hope that St Tikhon [Bellavin] never recommended the New Calendar.

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Re: Intercommunion with the Episcopal Church during WW 1 & I

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Barbara wrote:

Oh THAT explains a real lot to me !
Thanks so much, Maria.

One thing I was thinking of after I posted this was that it was so weird to be praising
billy graham the way Bp Tikhon sounded to be doing. That was the line that my eyes caught -
-- and rejected !

Aha. That explains, too, why the OCA - West seems SO anti-Roman Catholic. More so than one would
ever expect when by comparison, at OCA Central, the Chancellor apparently likes Mother Teresa.

Well, if you have friends still there, do they have any insights which would help explain what's going on?

[Were they pro or anti Jonah ?!!! I don't know the OCA sites at all. If one were
judging from this Monomakhos one which you posted links for,
one would get quite a surprising picture !
Do you have any feelings about which of their hierarchs should be given
the White Hat ? Not that ANYONE deserves it, with the autocephaly trick the OCA played,
back in 1970. I was hoping that sane minds would prevail and they will apologize to Rocor
for having caused SO MUCH TROUBLE over the years, I bet.
It's a different Rocor, anyway, but at least a symbolic gesture of regret seems to be
in order. Is that impossible to happen, are they determined in their own [poorly chosen] path ?

I would much appreciate any insights you may have picked up along the way over the years --
i admit I got really befuddled looking at that site and had to stay away from looking at it for awhile
to clean out my thoughts....

Also do you think Bishop Tikhon is just casting about to fill up his time ?
I assume he is speaking on behalf of himself and objectively.
But could he be part of a group?

This is TOO confusing.

Anyway i hope that St Tikhon [Bellavin] never recommended the New Calendar.

My friends tell me that their OCA priests are telling the parishioners to mind their own business, avoid the Internet gossip, and to pray for their salvation. However, people are reading Monomakhos and talking about it. These parishioners are disgusted with the constant upheavals in the OCA Synod, arrogance in the hierarchy, and the continual voting for new Metropolitans. The last three OCA Metropolitans have been disgraced and restricted to celebrating the Divine Liturgy in only one parish. Bishop Nicolai who was forced into retirement cannot even visit one OCA parish, neither can he change jurisdictions as he will not be given a canonical release. Since one person, the outed homosexual Mark Stokoe, through his now retired blog at ocanews, has caused the downfall of at least three bishops (Bishop Nicholai, Met. Herman, and Met. Jonah), one can say that all these dismissals seem spurious.

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