Where is the Church?

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Constantine
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How can you distinguish an oc from an nc. Do they have bigger mustaches and beards as a sign of piousness..?

Perhaps those in Kiousis synod that distribute communion should actually research and care who they are giving communion to, instead of using a lame excuses like they cant distinguish who is oc and who is nc.

I'm posting here things about Kyrikos (sth that you don't do, so as to keep in secresy your Bishop's actions maybe..?)

If I felt the need to hide what my Metropolitan does, I would not be under his omophorion.

Secondly I'm not from Greece!

Right. And the Kiousis synod doesnt commune NC. Where are you from then?
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Mr.C wrote:

The part I like is:Nevertheless, it brings great joy to us to see the sensible part of the clergy and faithful of the ROCOR resisting the forces of sergianism and ecumenism, and uniting under the omophorion of His Grace, Bishop Agafangel, thus continuing to be true to the Holy Traditions of The Church. Thus we congratulate all of you for standing firmly in the Truth, and we stand with you as fellow soldiers fighting for the Truth and striving together in our mutual holy struggle to keep the Traditions of our Holy Fathers.

Read this, and notice the obvious difference:

To His Eminence Bishop Agafangel of Odessa and Tavris from SiR
In order for this to be realized, it is clear that other Bishops will have to be consecrated, and we have already expressed to Vladyka Agafangel our willingness to take part, together with representatives of the Romanian and Bulgarian Churches, in such ordinations at some date in the future. This would be a wonderful way in which to repay the debt that we owe to the Russian Church Abroad, which in 1960 and 1962 consecrated a new Episcopate for the Old Calendar Greek Church, which had been without Bishops since 1955.

I think it's clear now who offered to "give a hand"!

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Dear LMP/Kallinkos, you so casually skipped the fact that the Kiousis Synod says:

Nevertheless, it brings great joy to us to see the sensible part of the clergy and faithful of the ROCOR resisting the forces of sergianism and ecumenism, and uniting under the omophorion of His Grace, Bishop Agafangel, thus continuing to be true to the Holy Traditions of The Church. Thus we congratulate all of you for standing firmly in the Truth, and we stand with you as fellow soldiers fighting for the Truth and striving together in our mutual holy struggle to keep the Traditions of our Holy Fathers

Bishop Agafangal believes there is grace in the MP, and the Kiousis synod congratulates him and people under his omophorion? The Kiousis synod must then believe that their is grace in the KGB, sergianistic, schismatic MP. Very Orthodox in their confession of faith.

So I ask you Kallinkos, does the Kiousis Synod believe there is grace in the schismatic, sergianist MP? Yes or No

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At the time when this document was issued by GOC-CII, Agafangel had made no declaration about grace in MP, nor had he entered in communion with the cyprianists. So the GOC could think Aganfangel was a serious person.

Priidite, poklonimsja i pripadem ko Hristu.

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I believe Bishop Agafangal, has always been quite clear about his opinion that the MP is with grace

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DavidS wrote:

Evlogeite and Christos Anesti,

Can anyone tell me where a true and canonical church is today in the world? I don't want opinions. I need facts. Thank you.

What a loaded question.

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suaiden wrote:

What a loaded question.

It's obvious that he won't get any answers from here, but will only watch us "the orthodox" fighting..

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