Moderator: Mark Templet
...really, I hope you're kidding and I'm just too serious.
the examples of the pope's cross and of the Miraculous Cross icon are works of men. BTW, that icon is of the 1925 appearance on the Orthodox Calendar date for the Exaltation. It was a sign to the unbelievers that the Calenader innovation was wrong.
I'm sure, given the pious nature of the Traditionalist Greeks in the 1920's and 30's, that they surely were aware of the proper shape and form of the Holy Cross.
Nectarios
The Church cannot be divided, only it is that some schismatics embrance New Calendar, Ecumenism and Sergianism and in such a way they fell in the heresy.
That sounds pretty divided to me. We were one Church before 1054 A.D.
the examples of the pope's cross and of the Miraculous Cross icon are works of men. BTW, that icon is of the 1925 appearance on the Orthodox Calendar date for the Exaltation. It was a sign to the unbelievers that the Calenader innovation was wrong.
I'm sure, given the pious nature of the Traditionalist Greeks in the 1920's and 30's, that they surely were aware of the proper shape and form of the Holy Cross.
I wasn't denying the miracle of 1925. I was just expressing my view of the pope's staff and that the arms were bent downwards. I've never seen a cross with the arms bent. It doesn't seem right. The Miracle Cross is not presented in that way.
Just like the "pictures" of Christ and the Theotokos with their hearts exposed. Those are catholic images and never depicted in the Orthodox tradition. Isn't there a specific meaning in the depictions? There is a theological basis for their depictions. And the depictions are based on false theology.
Now, I know many non-Orthodox may disagree, but I haven't seen these images in an Orthodox church.