The New Holy Mountain Fathers

[Lemon Schist]

I had no idea that monoclonal antibodies were a problem. I just read up on them, and my question is whether it is the use of the "immortal" cancer cells or the creation of the hybridoma specifically? Honestly, is sounds like they took a page right out of Frankenstein's Monster. Unless I misunderstood, it also sounds like their early efforts involved chimeric cells made from mouse tumors and sheep cells. So, I can see how it is ethically questionable and kind of demonic.
I really am trying to learn here, so please don't take my questions as being combative. I have had a secular frame of reference for most of my life and am working to replace it with an Orthodox one, so I ask your patience.

[eish]

There are different kinds of monoclonal antibodies. A basic example may go something like this:

Take a genetically engineered mouse and kill off its immune system. (Whether by genetic engineering, chemotherapy, or radiotherapy.) Now replace it with a hybridised human immune system (possibly obtained from aborted children; it generally isn't specified in the literature where it comes from). The human immune cells may be genetically engineered to help avoid killing the mouse--that is the part I'm unsure of because I will need to read the procedures in great detail. Vaccinate the mouse. Harvest the blood from the mouse. Separate out antibodies and sell those as a cure.

But sure, that sounds “better” than the vax to the ignorant despite having almost all the same problems and some new ones.

[Lemon Schist]

I've never really spent any time thinking about this, I had previously assumed that the medical industry was working from at least a minimal ethical baseline (naïve, I realize) but the scamdemic woke me up to that lie. I knew about the transhumanist agenda but I was focused more on the obvious stuff and not so much on this hidden aspect. I am grateful that you brought it to my attention. I had no plans on ever taking any vaccine ever again but this definitely sheds new light on the entire industry.

[eish]

Let's not go too far off topic. To the extent that we are talking about the new Athonites and comparing their resistance to covidism versus some of the TO jurisdictions I would still do that here, but if we want to go into detail on the medical industry or the GOC-K I'd take that to another thread.

The main point: it is such a pity that the GOC-K who resist ecumenism to some reasonable extent, does not effectively (synodally) resist covidism while the neo-Athonites resisted covidism to some reasonable extent (for non-hierarchs), while not resisting ecumenism effectively. Pity they couldn't do a prisoner exchange: the EP takes the GOC-K's covidists and the GOC-K takes the (Athonite) EP's anti-ecumenists.

It's especially sad that the fathers of Esphigmenou had to break communion with the GOC-K over this (see first post) but I think it was justified.

[Barbara]

That is really important information, though, that Esphigmenou broke communion with the GOC-K.
I hadn't known that until this 'timely timeline' - !

It really helps to see everything laid out clearly like that.

Did any others break communion with the GOC-K over this topic ?
They absolutely SHOULD HAVE.

I remember seeing the video of Met Demetrios talking about this.
I don't know where it is now, but it did exist.

[Philaret]

A friend of mine was told recently by a GOC-K monk in Greece that Esphigmenou has declared that all who have received a covid vaccination will be damned. Does anyone have information about this? I find this to be suspect myself. It appears they are trying to paint Esphigmenou as fallen heretics. I truly am beyond weary.

[eish]

A friend of mine was told recently by a GOC-K monk in Greece that Esphigmenou has declared that all who have received a covid vaccination will be damned. Does anyone have information about this? I find this to be suspect myself. It appears they are trying to paint Esphigmenou as fallen heretics. I truly am beyond weary.

The context and wording may make a difference.

For example sometimes one might say that some group of sinners would be “damned” and the qualifier “unrepentant” is implicit. They could also be saying that the jab is a precursor of the mark, and drawing the comparison that the mark will not allow repentance and hence why we must be extremely resistant to the jab.

The claim you have reported sounds to me more like sour grapes--like claiming the Esphigmenou fathers are going too far in condemning the jab and warning people that they are losing their souls, while their own hierarchy is not opposing this obvious satanic practice. Even if the fathers perhaps did not word their statement absolutely perfectly--and keeping in mind that I myself can be wrong on it as well--certainly in spirit it is correct to say that the jab has damned some souls. We have seen it all around us, how many people have gone off the rails since 2020 and since died.