Question for Anastasios... SVOTS Seminary

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Post by Justin Kissel »

anastasios

He said he was interested in studying more academic history type stuff and St Vladimir's has more of that, that's all.

But why did you say that they are known for being a pastoral school, and why are they trying to change that image? Are they or are they not a "pastoral school," and if so, is that a good thing or bad thing (apparently bad since they wish to change the image?) My question didn't revolve around anyone's particular reasons for attending this school or that. I asked about your claim that St. Tikhons was known for being pastoral, though was trying to change that. I'm still trying to figure out what's wrong with being pastoral. :)

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Again, I'm not trying to lure you into a debate, I'd just like an answer. E.g., "Saint Tikhon's feels that they've fallen behind and that society as it currently is requires priests to have more theological training than they used to need; therefore they are updating to meet that perceived need"
; or something like that.

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Dear Nicholas and Josh,

I've sent you both PM's.

Savva24 wrote:

TRAITOR! You can not tell me that the elegance and architecture of downtown Porchester had not had a life altering effect on you.

I haven't been to Port Chester in years, but as I remember it, it is very shady. A bizarre place, but interesting.

Oh and all those names you brought up (, ''The Mall'' ''North'', Owen et all. What a freekshow our school was; Nazi-skinheads, Lesbian feminazis, trangendered professers....)

Haha, that definitely sounds like Purchase. I haven't seen much of it, but I've heard stories from friends.

I remember my first time visiting the campus and seeing the brick buildings and looking around and thinking "Those buildings have no windows". Maybe I was not looking at the right buildings, but it was a very strange site to see good sized buildings with no windows. And the Neuberger, which I was made to visit a few times for some joint English/Art programme...the best part about visiting it was leaving.

Purchase is alright, but White Plains is better. :P

God bless you both.

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Post by Anastasios »

Dear Justin,

OK OK I reread my original post and see what you mean.

1) St Tikhon's is know more as JUST a pastoral school
2) They are trying to change this by getting accredited and expanding their academic program.
3) I personally think that personal holiness is the most important feature of a priest followed secondly by intelligence/knowledge of the Church (we are taught at St Vlads that intelligence is not brain power but making the right Godly choice, btw). I think both are important, so please no follow up about how us ecumenists believe PhD's are preferrable to prayer :)

I really wasn't trying to open up a can of worms or insinuate anything so I apologize for my choice of wording.

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You know what, I gots to ax you a question, let me speak 'bout you 'cumenists a second here... I ain't afeared of your fancy diplomas... :) ;) j/k

Thank you, you'd think I would have been able to see (in earlier posts) what you just said, sorry about that! :)

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Savva24 wrote:

Nazi-skinheads, Lesbian feminazis, trangendered professers....), I haven't heard many of them in almost three years. Not sure if that is a bad thing. But I do know me and you definatley have to catch up with Matt and Alana sometime.

Wow....yeah, that place was nutty. One of my favorite Purchase experiences was starting my American Politics class. The first day the professor introduced himself by saying: "I'm a Marxist, so this class will basically be taught from a Marxist perspective. If you don't like that, you should probably find another class to take." That was interesting.

But seriously, when you're back across the pond we(you, me, matt alana) should all get together and go to church in Nyack or something. It's funny, Alana was one of the first people I met there...when we were standing in line for the outdoor bbq and I was trying to find the veggie burgers- sissy that i am.

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Peter J. Hatala wrote:

Wow....yeah, that place was nutty. One of my favorite Purchase experiences was starting my American Politics class. The first day the professor introduced himself by saying: "I'm a Marxist, so this class will basically be taught from a Marxist perspective. If you don't like that, you should probably find another class to take." That was interesting.

Yea, nutty is indeed the word Josh.

I would like to add one thing that may be a significant point. The three and a half years at Purchase were the most important years of my life. It is there that my faith in Christ and His Orthodox Church really solidified and also the place where I met the woman who is now my wife. I think there were things challenging my faith at every corner there. I was really miserable a lot of the time there. I felt a really evil hatred for and attack on Christianity and great blasphemy at almost every corner. However, I feel that I had to deal with real issues that I wouldn't have had to so directly deal with if I wasn't in such a place so hostile towards Christ's Truth. I feel almost like that was a real spiritual battleground for me, in which , through the grace of Christ, my faith became strengthened and I came out victorious. Now that it is over, I have never and most likely will never face such intense internal struggle for my faith; I feel kind of like, if that could not tear my faith down, nothing could. I wonder if you had something similar occur at all.

I would just like to make this point. I would never recommend any Christian person to attend a place so hostile towards their faith, but perhaps that kind of atmosphere can be a blessing in disguise in the long run. After all me, you (Peter), my wife, Matt (the ex-giant Skinhead) and your friend Jessica, who all went there, are all Orthodox now. Curious indeed. :P

Indeed looking forward to a time where we can meet in person.

In Christ,

Nicholas (Savva)

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