THE RUSSIAN IS THE SERB’S FRIEND FOREVER?

[sava]

You write ''...Greece or USA, countries with which their own Hierarchy have "links of friendship" with the "secular" Masonic authorities...''. What do you mean? Who is this Hierarchy?

I think everybody here knows about what I meant.

Is it so difficult for you fr. Siluan to make clear what you mean?

Dear fr. Siluan I am waiting for your reply..An orthodox cleric has to speak clearly without innuendo..''... Let your statement be, “Yes, yes” or “No, no”..''(Matthew 5:37)

[Priest Siluan]

Is it so difficult for you fr. Siluan to make clear what you mean?

Dear fr. Siluan I am waiting for your reply..An orthodox cleric has to speak clearly without innuendo..''... Let your statement be, “Yes, yes” or “No, no”..''(Matthew 5:37)

First. Who is you? What is your name, jurisdiction et al? I will not answer to "anonymous".

[Tryphon]

Is it so difficult for you fr. Siluan to make clear what you mean?

Dear fr. Siluan I am waiting for your reply..An orthodox cleric has to speak clearly without innuendo..''... Let your statement be, “Yes, yes” or “No, no”..''(Matthew 5:37)

First. Who is you? What is your name, jurisdiction et al? I will not answer to "anonymous".

Batushka,Batushka.

Sounds a little too much, your questions (in responding to Sava's normal question about Your movement to a different Synod) like a Communist ploy to switch subjects. Mr Despotovac knows Brother Sava, ask him.

[MoscowIs3rdRome]

Whatever you are now talking about Bishop Akaki, when he came to Serbia was not a one true Orthodox Christian. His effort was all created, and do not forget that the Greek bishops did not give any support for 11 years no one has come to support him, and he from the official Serbian church suffered persecution. Only when he created true orthodox parishes and monasteries then the Greeks remembered Serbia but as its Greek protectorate.

Mr. Despotavac do you have answers for the following questions of Ekklisiastikos?

Some are looking for excuses, but there are no excuses for this anticanonic consecration which is a fruit of the slavic chauvinism.

The history of TOC of Greece has nothing to do with the "Serbian matter". These are two different stories. In Greece there was a continuation of True Orthodoxy even after the schism of 1924 . And back in 60's there was an already established and organized Orthodox Church which was left without bishops. And it was at the second panhellenic counsil of TOC clergy and faithful where they elected the candidates and decided to whom to turn for help.

Fr. Akakios or the akakian clique till now has not clarified some issues.

Which Holy Canon of the Orthodox Church allowed Akakios to abandon his lawful Bishop and stop being obedient to Him?
Did his Bishop cease to be orthodox? Did he become a heretic?
Is a bishop's nationality over the Holy canons?
Is an artificial presbyterian autocaphalous concregation of three priests over an orthodox and canonic Holy Synod of Bishops?
Who elected him?
Who anointed him as the only candidate?
Were there any council in Serbia where all the parishes participated and elected him?
Why he was consecrated secretly in France far away from Serbia and ''his flock'' ?
Why the Russians two days after their visit to Archbishop Kallinikos and his objections to the ordianation of HIS priest (fr. Akakios) they proceed to this action? Were they truly looking forward to our union or not ?

For the shameless and rude question based on passions and spiritual blindness, only answer is silence, learn it from Lord Jesus Christ's ''answer'' to Pilate and Caiaphas.

[MoscowIs3rdRome]

Bishop Akakije was a novice in a monastery Kovilj in Serbia two years, then for more serious monastic life and problem of ecumenism who practiced in a monastery Kovilj he crossed to Mount Athos. There he settled in Skete Kapsokalivia where as a novice he spent another year with those who mention Bartholomew because they still did not know for zealot fathers. There he met zeilot fathers and decided to break communion with the World Orthodoxy. After breaking communion with the World Orthodoxy, in Mount Athos he became a monk from Serbian heiromonk Raphael and Serbian Hagiorite Monk Daniel. That monastic tonsure was in catacomb conditions of persecution because when Bishop Akakije departure from those who mentioned Bartholomew that meant his illegal stay on Mount Athos. Based on sued of Serbian Monastery Chilandar police asked to kick him out from Mount Athos. Then the Bishop Akakije seriously ill and was forced to move to Athens to Archimandrite Philaret monastery. The day after, in monastic cell, where he lived with a Serbian monk Daniel police arrived with a warrant for the arrest of Bishop Akakije. If he was arrested would be expelled from Greece with the prohibition of return to Greece which would mean termination of the mission of True Orthodoxy in Serbia.

How shameful spectacle is see those who call themselves "True Orthodox" attack a real struggler for true Orthodoxy as Bishop Akakije, who has been persecuted and still is persecuted by the Ecumenist and "Secular" authorities, while these true Orthodox attack and speak from the comfort of Greece or USA, countries with which their own Hierarchy have "links of friendship" with the "secular" Masonic authorities, who are enemies of the Orthodoxy. Their lack of Christian Love has not limits.

Father Siluan, bless me a sinner Vasilije.

Thank God for that gift of true and peaceful discernment witch is given to you by His Grace, He will know how to reward wise using of that holy weapon in your sincere battle for defending his Truth and Serbian TO Church.

Your post make us all (STOC Serbs) joyful and optimistic, because it make peace. May your peacemaking spirit grows more strong, by the prayers of our Holy Mother Mary.

Thank God He gave you to us, my dear brother in Christ.

[Tryphon]

Whatever you are now talking about Bishop Akaki, when he came to Serbia was not a one true Orthodox Christian. His effort was all created, and do not forget that the Greek bishops did not give any support for 11 years no one has come to support him, and he from the official Serbian church suffered persecution. Only when he created true orthodox parishes and monasteries then the Greeks remembered Serbia but as its Greek protectorate.

Mr. Despotavac do you have answers for the following questions of Ekklisiastikos?

Some are looking for excuses, but there are no excuses for this anticanonic consecration which is a fruit of the slavic chauvinism.

The history of TOC of Greece has nothing to do with the "Serbian matter". These are two different stories. In Greece there was a continuation of True Orthodoxy even after the schism of 1924 . And back in 60's there was an already established and organized Orthodox Church which was left without bishops. And it was at the second panhellenic counsil of TOC clergy and faithful where they elected the candidates and decided to whom to turn for help.

Fr. Akakios or the akakian clique till now has not clarified some issues.

Which Holy Canon of the Orthodox Church allowed Akakios to abandon his lawful Bishop and stop being obedient to Him?
Did his Bishop cease to be orthodox? Did he become a heretic?
Is a bishop's nationality over the Holy canons?
Is an artificial presbyterian autocaphalous concregation of three priests over an orthodox and canonic Holy Synod of Bishops?
Who elected him?
Who anointed him as the only candidate?
Were there any council in Serbia where all the parishes participated and elected him?
Why he was consecrated secretly in France far away from Serbia and ''his flock'' ?
Why the Russians two days after their visit to Archbishop Kallinikos and his objections to the ordianation of HIS priest (fr. Akakios) they proceed to this action? Were they truly looking forward to our union or not ?

For the shameless and rude question based on passions and spiritual blindness, only answer is silence, learn it from Lord Jesus Christ's ''answer'' to Pilate and Caiaphas.

Vasilije,

Saint john chrysostom writes about schism and that the blood of martyrs will not cleanse one of this sin; now I'm not sure if he spoke it or repeated saint ignatius. You should deffinetly look it up. May GOD grant You wisdom.

[sava]

Is it so difficult for you fr. Siluan to make clear what you mean?

Dear fr. Siluan I am waiting for your reply..An orthodox cleric has to speak clearly without innuendo..''... Let your statement be, “Yes, yes” or “No, no”..''(Matthew 5:37)

First. Who is you? What is your name, jurisdiction et al? I will not answer to "anonymous".

Dear fr. Siluan I didn't ask you something personal. I asked for clarifications about your own statement (..''Greece or USA, countries with which their own Hierarchy have "links of friendship" with the "secular" Masonic authorities...''). Do you mean the Ecumenistic Hierarchy of Greece and USA or the Hierarchy of the Genuine Orthodox Church? Just a clear answer please.

Also I asked you explaination according to Holy Canons about your ecclesiastical actions (the so called change of juristiction as if The One Holy Church of Christ is a Mall with many shops!).