AN ORTHODOX VIEW OF HARRY POTTER

[Ebor]

How about presenting an intelligent, coherent response.

Have you read the Intelligent, coherent article by the EO bishop that I provided the link to?

Ebor

[joasia]

Ebor wrote:

and I think that the points they aim to make are essentially Christian.

How so. Example please.

The rest of your commentary is just blantant double talk. You make no coherent assessments, in my opinion. Maybe someone else can enlighten me on CGW's commentary.

Ebor wrote:

Have you read the Intelligent, coherent article by the EO bishop that I provided the link to?

I took the time, to go to the site and read it. As I suspected...what a cladtrap of ideoloigies it holds. No wonder you are so lost in your understanding of God's path. What a pathetic commentary by a so-called bishop of the Orthodox church.

Do you actually belief that this is a coherent and intellectual commentary on the Orthodox faith??

It is so unfortunate that you, Ebor, would prefer to believe in these lies then to trust in the teachings of the holy fathers.

Since you support such audacities of psedo-faith, you obviously cannot hold a decent discussion about Orthodox matters. I don't even want to point out the many descrepencies of the article. In essence, it's pathetic.

[CGW]

Ebor wrote:

and I think that the points they aim to make are essentially Christian.

How so. Example please.

Actually, I wrote that. And really, I simply cannot summon up the effort required to make much of a defense when it seems to me that the response is likely to be something like

The rest of your commentary is just blantant double talk. You make no coherent assessments, in my opinion. Maybe someone else can enlighten me on CGW's commentary.

You thus dismiss your bishops, your scholars, and why shouldn't I expect the same treatment?

[joasia]

CGW

You thus dismiss your bishops, your scholars, and why shouldn't I expect the same treatment?[/quote}

No. I dismiss any bishop who would express ecumenical opinions. They are not reflecting the teachings of the holy fathers. Unfortunately, there are many Orthodox bishops who do just that. The Pat. of Constantinople, Bartholomew is a sorry example.

You're opinion is yours and you have the right to it, but you're not Orthodox, so don't put yourself in the same boat with Orthodox bishops and scholars.

The following are three points from the article that Ebor posted, which made me question the Orthodox integrity of this bishop:

However, mutual understanding, common human goals, and universalism, when placed in perspective and protected from abuse, can serve the most sacred of Christian goals.[/quote}

He never bothers to mention what that Christian goal is. It just sounds like a vague commentary and I see no Orthodox perspective in this comment.

Our failure, as Orthodox Christians, to understand the universal dimensions of our earthly mission has led us, as I argued above, into the ills of phyletism, ethnocentrism, xenophobia, and even Christian exclusivism (perhaps the most striking of all oxymorons).

Again no mention of what our "earthly mission" entails. Christian exclusivism? He labels Orthodoxy as Christian exclusivism? This is a purely ecumenical comment.

Although the site is called OrthodoxyToday.org, anyone who thinks clearly is represented here. If an article is compelling, if it employs sound moral thinking and analysis, it's worth reading, in my opinion. You may notice however, that most authors don't think in a spiritual vacuum. They recognize a touchstone higher than themselves.

I got this from the section: about us. How ecumenical is that...and coming from a so-called Orthodox bishop. Why do we need non-Orthodox commentary to help us understand the world. Buddhists could be writing the articles. They will obviously not be giving an Orthodox view as well as whatever other non-Orthodox writer.

Whenever I read the articles by Bp. Averky, St. John Maximovich or Fr. Seraphim Rose, about the spiritual state of the world view, I got a distinctive Orthodox explanation.

This bishop reflects non of that. As the saying goes, three strikes and you're out.

But, I can see why this article would seem pleasing to you. Ecumenism is very highly rated in the world. But, I for one, do not have a worldly ecumenical mentality.

The full truth is in Orthodox which has been preserved by the holy fathers. If you want to live by half a truth, then that is your choice, but I believe in the full truth. You live your life and I will live mine. Let's leave it at that.

I apologize to you and any one else in this post, for any personal attacks I have made. It was not proper decorum. I got carried away.

Please forgive me.

[Ebor]

Ebor wrote:

Have you read the Intelligent, coherent article by the EO bishop that I provided the link to?

I took the time, to go to the site and read it. As I suspected...what a cladtrap of ideoloigies it holds. No wonder you are so lost in your understanding of God's path. What a pathetic commentary by a so-called bishop of the Orthodox church.

Just because you do not like what he wrote, does not make him a "so-called bishop". He is one. (btw, he's not my bishop, to be clear)

Do you actually belief that this is a coherent and intellectual commentary on the Orthodox faith??

No, I see it to be an article about what some people have done with a book and his views on such behaviour.

You are declaring this Bishop "so-called" on the basis of one article on only one subject. His synod does not agree.

Ebor

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