Shroud of Turin

[SavaBeljovic]

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Since we are on the Topic of the Shroud and it relates to the crucifixion. They found Pontus Pilates ring a few years go.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/30/worl ... -ring.html?

We should probably have a Biblical archaeology thread... I am personally fascinated by this stuff

[Unseen.Warfare]

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Since we are on the Topic of the Shroud and it relates to the crucifixion. They found Pontus Pilates ring a few years go.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/30/worl ... -ring.html?

We should probably have a Biblical archaeology thread... I am personally fascinated by this stuff

I’ve seen the bones of the Holy Innocents. If I’m not mistaken they were found in an archeological dig. They ended up at a certain monastery mysteriously..

[Suaidan]

I’ve seen the bones of the Holy Innocents. If I’m not mistaken they were found in a archeological dig. They ended up at a certain monastery mysteriously..

The Holy Innocents' relics are actually pretty well distributed throughout the world. I'm pretty sure we have a small part of their relics at the Abbey

[Unseen.Warfare]

I’ve seen the bones of the Holy Innocents. If I’m not mistaken they were found in a archeological dig. They ended up at a certain monastery mysteriously..

The Holy Innocents' relics are actually pretty well distributed throughout the world. I'm pretty sure we have a small part of their relics at the Abbey

That’s interesting. I’m sure you know what I’m talking about. It’s a pretty large collection and the story I was told could have come out of an Indiana Jones movie. I didn’t doubt it though.

[Unseen.Warfare]

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The other disciples therefore said to him, "We have seen the Lord." So he said to them, "Unless I see in His hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and put my hand into His side, I will not believe." - John 20:25

In the 1930s, a French physician named Pierre Barbet conducted a number of medical experiments regarding the crucifixion of Christ. One of his observations was that nails driven through the palms of Jesus would not have supported the weight of his body on the cross. Barbet theorized that, instead, the nails were driven into a hollow spot (biologists call it “Destot’s space”) among the bones in the heel of the hand at the top of the wrist.

Some commentators challenged that conclusion. They pointed out that Roman execution techniques also included tying the wrists to the crossbar by ropes and that the nails through the palms were meant not to support the weight but simply to increase the pain.

In the 1990s, research by Dr. Frederick Zugibe of Columbia University came to a different conclusion. He theorized that the nails could have been driven into the palms at an angle, exiting at the wrists. This, he said, would have supported the body’s weight.

(Also, taking in account the footstool)

The Shroud of Turin, considered by many to be the actual burial shroud of Christ, shows a blood print in the location of the bones of the wrist. But it should be noted that the imprint on the shroud is from the back of the hand and could depict only the exit area of the nail and not its entrance.

[SavaBeljovic]

I called Vladyka Andrei today and we were talking about the Shroud of Turin. He mentioned they did DNA testing on blood found on the Shroud and noted that they found maternal DNA, but no paternal DNA, and that the blood type was AB negative, which is very rare.

He also personally believes the Shroud of Turin is real.

[Unseen.Warfare]

I called Vladyka Andrei today and we were talking about the Shroud of Turin. He mentioned they did DNA testing on blood found on the Shroud and noted that they found maternal DNA, but no paternal DNA, and that the blood type was AB negative, which is very rare.

He also personally believes the Shroud of Turin is real.

It’s seems like a good amount of reliable Holy People all see it as genuine. I personally think it’s truly the burial cloth of Christ. the fact St. John Maximovich and Fr. Seraphim Rose both consider it authentic holds a lot of weight for me considering the discernment that both men have shown.