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Russian Orthodoxy disavows Soviet-era document in step toward reunion with foreign church

MOSCOW (AP) -- The Russian Orthodox Church has disavowed a Soviet-era declaration of loyalty to the Communist government, a step that could help bring reunion with an emigre church that has been separate since 1920.

The New York-based Russian Orthodox Church Outside Russia severed contacts with the Moscow-based church after Patriarch Sergiy issued the loyalty declaration in 1927.

The Moscow Patriarchate has said Sergiy did this to save the church from ruin, but a new document on its Web site says the declaration was among documents that ''do not express the true voice of the Church of Christ (and) are deemed no longer valid.''

The Web site presented several documents drafted by delegates of the Moscow Patriarchate and the foreign church and approved by their respective synods.

The two churches set up working groups on reunification issues after a 2003 visit to Russia by three archbishops of the foreign church and a 2004 visit by its head, Metropolitan Laurus.

The documents went further than ever before toward apology by the Moscow Patriarchate for Soviet-era compromises with the state.

''Some clergymen and laypersons, trampling upon divine truth, facilitated the persecutors in their actions directed toward the destruction of the church,'' said a posted document. ''Such actions cannot under any circumstances be permitted and justified: they deserve all condemnation.''


http://www.mospat.ru/e--startpage/index.html; http://www.russianorthodoxchurch.ws/english/index.html


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Amen. Isn't the first step in repentance to see the error of your action then try to correct it.

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Last week they said one thing, this week they say the opposite. Let's wait and see what they say next week.

Seems like they're saying everything under the sun. Just sounds like politics to me...say everything to please everyone. After everything is said and done, then we'll see the real agenda.

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Ekaterina, please always indicate the web link to the article... I do not see this article in the website of the Associated Press.

When you quote something on the Internet please indicate the link as a proof you are not lying...

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Katya, did not "lie".......

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/nationa ... oref=login

How absolute Christian of you to accuse another of lying.....

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Jean-Serge:

I DON"T LIE.....

Katya

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Where do you see accusations?

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Liudmilla wrote:

Katya, did not "lie".......

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/nationa ... oref=login

How absolute Christian of you to accuse another of lying.....

Milla

I did not say she was lying. I wanted to say that if you do not indicate your sources, everybody can say it is a hoax or desinformation... I first thought it was indeed a hoax... And then I gave you this advice. The best way to evitate this doubts is giving the sources.

Moreover, as a sign of respect for other people's work it is always better to indicate the origin of a with the correspondant link.

As regards your message, this is not a new information, the quotation is from the document about relations between Church and State, between ROCOR and Moscow, which is not a bad document.

However this document must be put in balance with the one about sergianism which shows the strangest way of dealing with the Lapsis (those who capitulate due to persecution) since the beginning of the Church and which is not a good document according to my eyes.

I think the same about the document about ecumenism. By allowing cooperation between Orthodox and Heterodox, it prepares an agreement between Alksey II and Benedict XVI. Which agrrement I do not know but the weather is warming between Moscow and Roma

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