Apostles' Fast begins in Orthodox Christian world

尼古拉前执事 · Post by **尼古拉前执事** » Mon 27 June 2005 12:47 pm

MOSCOW, June 27 (RIA Novosti, Olga Lipich) - The Apostles' Fast, one of the four major fasts in Orthodox Christianity, begins today. It is not a "strict" fast, as people observing it are allowed to eat fish every day except on Wednesdays and Fridays.

The Apostles' Fast always begins on the Monday a week after the Holy Trinity feast day, whose date depends on when Easter is celebrated. Therefore, the Apostles' Fast's length varies from year to year.

The fast always ends on July 12 when Orthodox believers commemorate Sts. Peter and Paul, which is why the fast is called the Apostles' Fast.

Believers break the fast on July 12 by eating a modest meal after a church service.

Joshua F · Post by **Joshua F** » Tue 28 June 2005 8:08 am

Of course, there is no Apostle's fast in the OCA or other new calendar churches!

It's Tuna time again

romiosini · Post by **romiosini** » Tue 28 June 2005 11:46 am

Joshua Fraese wrote:
Of course, there is no Apostle's fast in the OCA or other new calendar churches!

It's Tuna time again

Yes there is. It ends this Thursday, Saint Peter's and Saint Paul's.

And actually, the Fast of the Apostles was never that long until 15-16th century. The fact the was changed to be more stricter the last 300/400 years doesn't necessarily dogmaticly. Let us not be fanatic.

Priest Siluan · Post by **Priest Siluan** » Tue 28 June 2005 12:11 pm

Let us not be fanatic.

Well, there are also people that are "fanatic" to the modernism, they sometimes love to be denominated "moderate". Everything is question of points of view.

尼古拉前执事 · Post by **尼古拉前执事** » Tue 28 June 2005 12:54 pm

Some years however, on the Gregorian calendar, the fast does not happen at all.

Even though this article says fish is allowed, my SJKP calendar says fish only on the weekends and on the Nativity of Saint John, otherwise Tuesdays and Thursdays are oil & wine days.

Priest Siluan · Post by **Priest Siluan** » Tue 28 June 2005 1:15 pm

Νικολάος Διάκ wrote:
Some years however, on the Gregorian calendar, the fast does not happen at all.

The innovation doesn't respect the Tradition and we all know that New Calendar had been the door of entrance of Ecumenism. For that reason the "problem of the calendar" is not a smaller question, like they want to argue some "moderate".

Esteban · Post by **Esteban** » Tue 28 June 2005 9:43 pm

Νικολάος Διάκ wrote:
Even though this article says fish is allowed, my SJKP calendar says fish only on the weekends and on the Nativity of Saint John, otherwise Tuesdays and Thursdays are oil & wine days.

Actually, if I recall correctly, during the Apostles' Fast (and the Nativity Fast, before Dec. 19 inclusive) fish may be eaten on Tuesday, Thursdays, Saturdays and Sundays if the feast of the day is at least doxology rank. If a feast so ranked should fall on Monday, Wednesday, and Tuesday, wine and oil are premitted. I believe this is spelled out in Chapter XXX of the Ustav, but I don't have my copy at hand to double check.

Also, I wish that people would stop saying things like:

The fast always ends on July 12 when Orthodox believers commemorate Sts. Peter and Paul[....]

The Fast ends, of course, on June 29, which is when Orthodox believers commemorate Sts. Peter and Paul. That this coincides with July 12 on the Pope's calendar is another matter entirely. No one turning to July 12 on the Menaion will find the feast of the Apostles.